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Old 09-18-2014, 06:19 PM
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I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I could not find anything using the search function. I fly a CJ3 with integrated charts on a single File Server Unit (FSU). Currently, I continue to carry paper charts as a backup, but would like to convert to an iPad.

I was hoping that it would be as simple as getting a JeppView subscription and carrying the iPad. However, it appears that this would only apply to a piston or turboprop aircraft. Am I correct that using an iPad for charts (Class 1 EFB) would require complying with AC 120-76C (Guidelines for the Certification, Airworthiness, and Operational Use
of Electronic Flight Bags)? Any thoughts?

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See this FAA INFO letter:

INFO on iPad

We use them, Part 91, by complying with it. We also have dual file servers.

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galaxy flyer,
Thank you for posting the link to the FAA INFO letter. I spent hours today researching this and I never came across that information. The dual FSU's would have been a nice addition... Maybe next time.

It looks like I will need to comply with the AC. Oh well, it doesn't look too bad.
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From GF's link:

"For part 91 operators other than 91K, the use of an EFB in lieu of paper is the decision of the aircraft operator and/or the pilot in command."

We fly a CJ3 (Part 91), single file server, with an aircraft iPad/JeppFD as the backup (plus each pilot has their own iPad with Jepps). No paper.
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Originally Posted by Mink View Post
From GF's link:

"For part 91 operators other than 91K, the use of an EFB in lieu of paper is the decision of the aircraft operator and/or the pilot in command."

We fly a CJ3 (Part 91), single file server, with an aircraft iPad/JeppFD as the backup (plus each pilot has their own iPad with Jepps). No paper.
Ok... I think I'm getting it now. The FAA doesn't make this very clear. Shocking, I know. According to the FAA InFO Letter, it looks like it is legal for a Part 91 (except for Part 91K) operator to use the iPad without any sort of approval. It's confusing though when you read AC 120-76C. In this Advisory Circular I find the following text:

"The PED regulations’ applicability addresses certificated operators and IFR aircraft. Aircraft operated under part 91, except for parts 91F and 91K, require no EFB authorization or compliance with this AC, provided the EFB does not replace any equipment or operating information required by the regulations." - AC 120-76C

Sounds good, but a CJ3 (any jet) is considered a part 91F aircraft, right?

In FSIMS there is guidance to processing an operator’s request for “authorization to use” an Electronic Flight Bag (EFB). In the applicability section it makes it pretty clear that I don't need approval. Here's a highlighted section:

No written authorization is required for part 91 operators except those conducted under part 91 subpart K (part 91K).

AC 91-78 provides some more guidance and it seems to simplify things. This AC doesn't say anything about part 91F operators needing to be approved.

Hopefully someone else has a better answer than I've been able to find.

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When I flew a CJ4 not too long ago (Part 91), I did exactly as Mink suggested; iPad w/JeppFD. Never a problem and met all requirements.
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Just follow the guidance in the InFO letter. Don't get wrapped up in the AC.

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galaxy flyer, Mink, and Lucky8888 - Thanks for the information. I had a feeling I was overthinking it. Your feedback has really helped.

I have been doing business aviation as a part time gig for the last 5 years while I worked as a regional airline pilot. Now that I've left the airlines, I feel a little lost. It has been a challenge to get back into thinking for myself instead of just reading what's in the company manuals for guidance.
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