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Old 01-16-2007, 08:38 AM
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I'm new here and need advice. Could you give me some ideas on a daily rate for a on-demand single pilot to fly a new S.E. turbine 6 place aircraft for a company? At first maybe once a week, more flying later. I expect plenty of night IFR in bad weather. They want to arrive alive and I believe are willing to pay a fair rate for my experience. (15,000+ hours Part 135/121 turbprop & jet). I just took early retirement from a 121 airline and have been doing some research and want as many opinions as possible. Thanks!
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What's the plane, a PC12 perhaps?
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Hi Guys,
I'm new here and need advice. Could you give me some ideas on a daily rate for a on-demand single pilot to fly a new S.E. turbine 6 place aircraft for a company? At first maybe once a week, more flying later. I expect plenty of night IFR in bad weather. They want to arrive alive and I believe are willing to pay a fair rate for my experience. (15,000+ hours Part 135/121 turbprop & jet). I just took early retirement from a 121 airline and have been doing some research and want as many opinions as possible. Thanks!
A prop I presume? Pilatus or Socata?

I would think $600-800/day would be resonable, maybe more depending on location of the base.

They could probably get someone cheaper, but they would be less insurable and less experienced. I would think your 121 background would be a bonus if they are serious about safety. If not, you will be undercut by some marginal corporate gadfly.
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by utahrpm View Post
Hi Guys,
I'm new here and need advice. Could you give me some ideas on a daily rate for a on-demand single pilot to fly a new S.E. turbine 6 place aircraft for a company? At first maybe once a week, more flying later. I expect plenty of night IFR in bad weather. They want to arrive alive and I believe are willing to pay a fair rate for my experience. (15,000+ hours Part 135/121 turbprop & jet). I just took early retirement from a 121 airline and have been doing some research and want as many opinions as possible. Thanks!
A prop I presume? Pilatus or Socata?

I would think $600-800/day would be resonable, maybe more depending on location of the base.

They could probably get someone cheaper, but they would be less insurable and less experienced. I would think your 121 background would be a bonus if they are serious about safety. If not, you will be undercut by some marginal corporate gadfly.

Sounds like you don't have time in type...this would up the insurance initially.
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A prop I presume? Pilatus or Socata?

I would think $600-800/day would be resonable, maybe more depending on location of the base.

They could probably get someone cheaper, but they would be less insurable and less experienced. I would think your 121 background would be a bonus if they are serious about safety. If not, you will be undercut by some marginal corporate gadfly.

Sounds like you don't have time in type...this would up the insurance initially.
The new Epic LT (PT-6 powered), and you are correct I have no time in type, but as the A/C is so new almost no one has. Based in SLC. Most of the opinions I've been hearing are in the $300 to $500 range so I like your take on it!! What caused you to suggest those particular numbers? Thanks for the help.
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$300-500 are turboprop SIC type numbers..
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:25 AM
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$300-500 are turboprop SIC type numbers..
Okay. So what it sounds like is the fact that the A/C is a turbine SINGLE is secondary to the fact that this a passenger carrying single pilot IFR operation. I suppose I was mentally downgrading the potential compensation based on the aircraft type.

Would it be reasonable to suggest a daily rate based on the number of days worked in a week, or is that just not done?
For example:
Use me one day a week, cost $800.00 for the day.
Second day, $700.00, third day and beyond, $500.00 a day.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
If not, you will be undercut by some marginal corporate gadfly.
Hey Rickair,

Define marginal corporate gadfly.
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:12 AM
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To me, that's helluva lot of money either way in my opinion. Experience is well worth the price, but you gotta be careful when they factor in someone(aka the gadfly) is willing to work for peanuts in the same situation. This also depends on how the company is run and who's in charge of the flight dept. Maybe an hourly rate would be better jusified?
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To me, that's helluva lot of money either way in my opinion. Experience is well worth the price, but you gotta be careful when they factor in someone(aka the gadfly) is willing to work for peanuts in the same situation. This also depends on how the company is run and who's in charge of the flight dept. Maybe an hourly rate would be better jusified?
The company already has a couple of lower time pilots that they could use but desire my experience so WITHIN REASON I think they will pay. Just what is "within reason" is what I need to know.

Geting back to my last question, forgetting the actual dollar amount for a minute and back to the question of a "sliding scale" based on number of days flown a week. Has anyone heard of that before or is it my own weird unworkable idea?
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