Flight to Dublin Ireland
06-28-2015, 02:17 AM
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Flight to Dublin Ireland
I am looking for information on flying to Dublin Ireland. The flight will be in a Lear 45. We will plan on flying into St. Johns, NL CYYT and on to Dublin, IR EIDW. It looks like we could fly direct with a 40 knot tail wind but I'm not sure if flying direct is even an option. It is likely we would need a fuel stop both ways. This is new to me. I have only flown to Latin America and the Caribbean aside from North america flights.
Any information or references would be appreciated.
Any information or references would be appreciated.
06-28-2015, 04:21 AM
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The North Alantic is very different from any other flying in the world. You can file to St. John's like any other flight in North America. From St. John's to Dublin you will need to file a domestic leg to the North Atlantic Tracks, NAT's then get a separate clearance from Gander Oceanic for the crossing. You will be under Gander Oceanics control until crossing 30W and then Shanwick Oceanic until coasting in. It's not as hard as it sounds but do your homework. Look on the back of the ATL H/L chart for more info. Your aircraft must be RVSM certified and have at least HF radios. Hope this helps some.
06-28-2015, 07:55 AM
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Yes, do your homework. Sit down with a friend/colleague that has NAT experience, buy him/her a coffee, and spend a few hours going over what to do. It ain't rocket surgery, but there are a lot of specific procedures and a lot of ways to get noticed (in a negative way) if you aren't familiarized with the overall process.
06-28-2015, 08:03 AM
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06-29-2015, 04:23 AM
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I dont know the lear 45 range,but if you go to BIRK iceland its 800 miles then on to YYT 1400 miles, and accross the Atlantic higher is no neccesarily better.
As everyone on here says ,its not rocket science but just different procedures.
i could be to your advantage to use a contract pilot with north atlantic experience and the services of universal weather.
As everyone on here says ,its not rocket science but just different procedures.
i could be to your advantage to use a contract pilot with north atlantic experience and the services of universal weather.
06-29-2015, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sddo
Thanks, If I need a fuel stop between St. Johns and Dublin what would you suggest?
We went through there last June around 5:30am local time.
We were in and out in 45 mins.
Great island, great people and quick turns.
As for the Arlantic Crossing. You will find making the stops is waaaaay more work than just a "standard" NAT crossing. Especially if you have CPDLC.
Enjoy and have a great time.
06-29-2015, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RI830
BIKF (Keflavik, Iceland) is a great stop.
We went through there last June around 5:30am local time.
We were in and out in 45 mins.
Great island, great people and quick turns.
As for the Arlantic Crossing. You will find making the stops is waaaaay more work than just a "standard" NAT crossing. Especially if you have CPDLC.
Enjoy and have a great time.
We went through there last June around 5:30am local time.
We were in and out in 45 mins.
Great island, great people and quick turns.
As for the Arlantic Crossing. You will find making the stops is waaaaay more work than just a "standard" NAT crossing. Especially if you have CPDLC.
Enjoy and have a great time.
06-29-2015, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 155mm
On St. Johns to Keflavik route are you in radar contact and VHF range the whole route or do you need an HF radio to make position reports? Same from Keflavik to Dublin? Just curious if its possible to have a routing that takes you close to Greenland or Faroe Islands and do it completely in radar and VHF communication contact?
The Blue Spruce routes are specifically for the non HF and short range aircraft.
After the trip, you will be pleased with how easy it went.
Practice the position reporting by Talking to yourself before you go.
Keep a cheat sheet for what to say and how to say it.
Will help a lot. When they start firing off lat/long coords, you can get lost quick.
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