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Old 07-11-2015, 02:49 PM
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I work with a CP that is a micromanager ,i have had to learn to manage him.II have been here 7 years but its taking a toll. I cant take it any longer.he is so perfect its pathetic.always "suggesting". After i answer a question he say "are u sure? Always Questining or doubting your decision. If i deviate right for wx he says its better to go left ...things like that. If im flying he likes to get up while we taxi and see if the pax needs something ( i think that is illegal) now i stop if that happens.he has done really unsafe stuff ,i could write a book.
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:27 PM
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Yes I have worked with these "sky gods" before. Document everything, have a sit down meeting with him and clear the air, then have a department wide meeting, lock the door and nobody leaves til the air is clear. Techniques are techniques and procedures are procedures, the issues arise when somebody thinks their technique is the only procedure.
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Old 07-11-2015, 06:59 PM
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I unfortunately have dealt with an ahole like this too.
I ended up departing the hold till he was fired and returned back to holding fix.

He was the demeaning Jekyl/Mr Hyde type.
You could make a decision one day and be praised...next day/same decision and be ridiculed for it.
I "voiced" my displeasure and concerns and were met with total BS.

I always say karma will catch up to these guys.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:29 PM
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Oh yes! Your experience sounds very similar to mine. The 121 world has been a refreshing reprieve from this insanity. Try having a guy that only lets you fly when he sees fit and doesn't realize how absolutely unsafe this is to have one pilot more proficient than the other. There's a reason the airlines switch legs 50/50. Left that nonsense in the dust and have never been happier.
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:44 AM
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In all my years I have always been amazed how the stupidest people ALWAYS end up.....in charge!!! It must be a personality trait they all have in common.
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Give a man a title and he'll show you his true colors.
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:41 AM
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I unfortunately have dealt with an ahole like this too.
I ended up departing the hold till he was fired and returned back to holding fix.

He was the demeaning Jekyl/Mr Hyde type.
You could make a decision one day and be praised...next day/same decision and be ridiculed for it.
I "voiced" my displeasure and concerns and were met with total BS.

I always say karma will catch up to these guys.
I think you hit the nail on the head " Jekyl/Mr Hyde". I think the guy must be bipolar.Its his way or no way and when he gets his way everything is fine and he is a nice guy.I do find if i push a little he backs down.still he is a total A... Totally insecure ,thinks he is the Principals friend etc etc.I told him once ,he is not your friend.The day he invites you to his birthday party he is your friend....he stayed quiet !!!!
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:51 AM
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Been there, done that. All I can say is I'm sorry you're having to go through it. You have two choices here which are suffer in silence or confront him with your chosen method. If you've been with the guy for a long period of time I'm sure you've made your feelings known in the past and are probably to the point where you feel like you're in the twilight zone.

I agree with the previous sentiment that these guys get what they deserve in the end. Just keep in mind that sometimes standing up to guys like this end with them sabotaging or flat-out firing those who oppose their regime. I have personally witnessed that occurring.

Good luck.
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Old 07-27-2015, 02:34 PM
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Been there, done that. All I can say is I'm sorry you're having to go through it. You have two choices here which are suffer in silence or confront him with your chosen method. If you've been with the guy for a long period of time I'm sure you've made your feelings known in the past and are probably to the point where you feel like you're in the twilight zone.

I agree with the previous sentiment that these guys get what they deserve in the end. Just keep in mind that sometimes standing up to guys like this end with them sabotaging or flat-out firing those who oppose their regime. I have personally witnessed that occurring.

Good luck.
This. There is a word for what you are dealing with unfortunately, narcissism. Unless he's about to retire just leave and I know it's easier said then done but you will go insane if you apply common sense and logical behavior to this individual. Sorry for what your going through, been there too.
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