ATL guys, whats your feel .......
06-30-2015, 06:33 PM
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ATL guys, whats your feel .......
... for how your atl peers will vote? I'm from NY and I have to say among those I have come across and/or flow with its running 5-1 against. If we go 50-50 in ATL, this thing easily gets flushed.
06-30-2015, 07:41 PM
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You got 4450 pilots (2102/2350) in the A-T-L where the players play and the parties last til 8 in the morning.
Try this, what % do you think would vote yes?
ATL A
ATL B
CVG A
CVG B
DTW A
DTW B
LAX A
LAX B
MSP A
MSP B
NYC A
NYC B
SEA A
SEA B
SLC A
SLC B
Try this, what % do you think would vote yes?
ATL A
ATL B
CVG A
CVG B
DTW A
DTW B
LAX A
LAX B
MSP A
MSP B
NYC A
NYC B
SEA A
SEA B
SLC A
SLC B
06-30-2015, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I have had 1 maybe who is 100% a yes. That's it. Everyone else I have met is a no.
Except I think those guys in the crew lounge are a yes.
Except I think those guys in the crew lounge are a yes.
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06-30-2015, 09:52 PM
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Don't kid yourselves fellas - this will be a close vote. Every No vote is important.
If this TA passes we will permanently erase tons of leverage:
Profit Sharing
JV compliance, or lack thereof
Manning issues
The Me too raise
Addressing Sick Leave changes.
All of the above will be gone forever.
The company wants all this and an increase in the TALV.
Yeah, lets give it all away and then think what the next TA would look like.
Scoop
If this TA passes we will permanently erase tons of leverage:
Profit Sharing
JV compliance, or lack thereof
Manning issues
The Me too raise
Addressing Sick Leave changes.
All of the above will be gone forever.
The company wants all this and an increase in the TALV.
Yeah, lets give it all away and then think what the next TA would look like.
Scoop
06-30-2015, 11:08 PM
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I'm on a trip right now with 3 other ATL based 777 pilots, all 4 of us are a "Hell NO!".
The other 3 aren't even aware of this web board or chitchat, they just read the TA and saw all the concessions, vs the tiny pay raises, and said NFW.
All 4 of us voted yes in 2012 because we were told we would never see those two 3% raises! And what does this TA have? Two more 3% raises! But we get to pay for those with more concessions!
Oh, let me add this, I called another ATL 777 Captain buddy of mine, he's a NO, and I talked to a couple 777 F/O's last week, both NO! I have not yet found a Yes voter in ATL. I hope the NLRB will monitor the voting, as I do not trust ALPA at all, given that all these TA's seem to pass by the same 62-38.
But this TA is so bad, even the perpetual ATL YES voters noticed!
The other 3 aren't even aware of this web board or chitchat, they just read the TA and saw all the concessions, vs the tiny pay raises, and said NFW.
All 4 of us voted yes in 2012 because we were told we would never see those two 3% raises! And what does this TA have? Two more 3% raises! But we get to pay for those with more concessions!
Oh, let me add this, I called another ATL 777 Captain buddy of mine, he's a NO, and I talked to a couple 777 F/O's last week, both NO! I have not yet found a Yes voter in ATL. I hope the NLRB will monitor the voting, as I do not trust ALPA at all, given that all these TA's seem to pass by the same 62-38.
But this TA is so bad, even the perpetual ATL YES voters noticed!
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07-01-2015, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I'm on a trip right now with 3 other ATL based 777 pilots, all 4 of us are a "Hell NO!".
The other 3 aren't even aware of this web board or chitchat, they just read the TA and saw all the concessions, vs the tiny pay raises, and said NFW.
All 4 of us voted yes in 2012 because we were told we would never see those two 3% raises! And what does this TA have? Two more 3% raises! But we get to pay for those with more concessions!
Oh, let me add this, I called another ATL 777 Captain buddy of mine, he's a NO, and I talked to a couple 777 F/O's last week, both NO! I have not yet found a Yes voter in ATL. I hope the NLRB will monitor the voting, as I do not trust ALPA at all, given that all these TA's seem to pass by the same 62-38.
But this TA is so bad, even the perpetual ATL YES voters noticed!
The other 3 aren't even aware of this web board or chitchat, they just read the TA and saw all the concessions, vs the tiny pay raises, and said NFW.
All 4 of us voted yes in 2012 because we were told we would never see those two 3% raises! And what does this TA have? Two more 3% raises! But we get to pay for those with more concessions!
Oh, let me add this, I called another ATL 777 Captain buddy of mine, he's a NO, and I talked to a couple 777 F/O's last week, both NO! I have not yet found a Yes voter in ATL. I hope the NLRB will monitor the voting, as I do not trust ALPA at all, given that all these TA's seem to pass by the same 62-38.
But this TA is so bad, even the perpetual ATL YES voters noticed!
You voted YES for C2012???
WTH?? IGGHH. TEN
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