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Old 11-29-2015, 11:03 AM
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At least one fleet has been advertising for its LCPs to go “offline” each month to do “Flight Standards” work (which includes line checks and SAQ).

They are paid 90 hours to be available for 18 “Pilot Standards” days—and they are able to WS and GS on their days off. If you want to see which line check pilots are doing this in your category, look at the bid awards each month and you will see “PSTD” for their schedule. Initially that will be shown for the entire month, but will change once trips and off days are assigned.

- Where is this addressed in the contract? (I can't find it).
- Why isn't this being run down by Contract Administration?

We need to contact our reps to find out why this is being allowed, and why Contract Admin isn't pursuing a Status Quo violation grievance.
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Couldn't get it in a TA, so they'll circumvent the normal process. What's the next step, messing with our sick leave. Can't trust them.
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Have you reported it to ALPA? What did they say? Looks like the FO's in that category should be compensated for the LCA trips they missed, therefore resulting in lost greenslips and whiteslips.
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Unfortunately if this and other issues go unchallenged we are setting a precedent. There will probably eventually need to be legal action and injunctions to force status quo. They have done it in the past when they were "wronged" and won on the grounds of picking up time was status quo. This is the same issue in reverse. This is another purposeful act that influences compensation and quality of life. How far do we let this slide before we act? I can hear these words spoken in front of a judge 2 years from now.

"but they did it first"

"and you chose not to pursue it then, so NOW you argue they have violated status quo, sorry too late"
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Have you reported it to ALPA? What did they say? Looks like the FO's in that category should be compensated for the LCA trips they missed, therefore resulting in lost greenslips and whiteslips.
Unfortunately all grievances go through
Contract Administration. And the current Contract Amin chair and vice chair are Moak disciples. Until they are replaced, there is IMO zero chance of any status quo action.
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can we find how many grievances has DALPA filed in last year? other then JV can someone name a few?
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Unfortunately all grievances go through
Contract Administration. And the current Contract Amin chair and vice chair are Moak disciples. Until they are replaced, there is IMO zero chance of any status quo action.
Wouldn't they be forced to file a grievance if it is in violation of the contract and someone requests that a grievance be filed? What does Malone say about it?
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I think the 3B4 resolution will be a good indication of how this administration will react.

My guess is, it won't go anywhere because Contract Admin will recommend against it.
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Until someone presses-to-test, there's really no way to know.
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
I think the 3B4 resolution will be a good indication of how this administration will react.

My guess is, it won't go anywhere because Contract Admin will recommend against it.
My guess is that your guess is correct. DALPA will not fight this.

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