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Old 10-04-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Five View Post
Anyone wanna speculate how senior the 73 will go in MSP and tell me how it compares to this maddog/DC9/717 series of airplanes I haven't been able to shake yet?
Pure unalterated.speculation. I've yet to fly with a single person that would leave the Bus for the 73. Guessing guys that are widebody F/O that commute might be attracted to 73 A plus guys (maybe a lot of guys) on the Mad Dog. Don't see anyone coming off the ER for it.

There ya go. Totally speculated my way in to not answering your question. Whoda ever thunk MSP would be senior on any equipment.
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Old 10-04-2016, 01:14 PM
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Rumor has it it's one of us, too. Way to represent...
Talk about butt hurt. Must have been a YES voter.
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:10 PM
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If you get scheduled for OE on X or Golden days, are you entitled to PB days?
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper33 View Post
If you get scheduled for OE on X or Golden days, are you entitled to PB days?
Golden Days are X days, so the answer is the same for both: YES.


Keep a close eye on it, though--apparently some newhires were improperly used on X days and not given PB days recently. I gather they've since been made whole and supposedly it won't happen again... but, "trust but verify" is probably a good plan....
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135 View Post
Golden Days are X days, so the answer is the same for both: YES.


Keep a close eye on it, though--apparently some newhires were improperly used on X days and not given PB days recently. I gather they've since been made whole and supposedly it won't happen again... but, "trust but verify" is probably a good plan....
Thanks, I'll go talk to scheduling tomorrow. I have OE on 4 of my X days this month.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper33 View Post
Thanks, I'll go talk to scheduling tomorrow. I have OE on 4 of my X days this month.
I may have been unclear: they (your training manager, in this case) absolutely can use you on X days (Golden or otherwise)--those days are for line construction & pay purposes only during your Shadow, and essentially no different even after your Shadow until you are "OK" (done with OE). There's nothing to talk to scheduling about.

You should get the PB days as a result of working on those X days; it should be automatic, after the fact. If that doesn't happen for whatever reason, then you have something to talk to scheduling about. I'd give it a day or two after the last X day on duty and check to see if the PB days have shown up....
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Old 10-05-2016, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Viper33 View Post
Thanks, I'll go talk to scheduling tomorrow. I have OE on 4 of my X days this month.
Payback days are awarded after you fly so wait and see if they show up before calling.
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Old 10-05-2016, 06:25 AM
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Can they use you on golden days for OE?
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Old 10-05-2016, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
Can they use you on golden days for OE?
Yes. Your PBS-awarded schedule means nothing to the OE Planner. Anecdotally only, most of them will "try" to fit your OE around your X days, if only to keep you usable to the company following training (vs having PB days give you more days off later in the month)--but that's not guaranteed.

Communicating "I need ______ days off" to the OE Planners is done via iCrew; still not guaranteed, but if they can fit it (in seniority order), they're supposedly required to do so. Close-in, calling your planner may be the only means you have to change things.
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Old 10-05-2016, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135 View Post
Yes. Your PBS-awarded schedule means nothing to the OE Planner. Anecdotally only, most of them will "try" to fit your OE around your X days, if only to keep you usable to the company following training (vs having PB days give you more days off later in the month)--but that's not guaranteed.

Communicating "I need ______ days off" to the OE Planners is done via iCrew; still not guaranteed, but if they can fit it (in seniority order), they're supposedly required to do so. Close-in, calling your planner may be the only means you have to change things.
Even when you're not a new hire? For instance I will be coming back off long term leave during a holiday month. If I am awarded off said holiday the OE planner can make me fly it? Guess I'll be coming back AFTER the holiday. How is that okay? My seniority holds a schedule. It should be honored.
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