27% offer by Delta?
08-25-2016, 05:00 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by Tanker1497
If it's not an issue, why is management asking for it? Doesn't matter, since it's so insignificant, they can just chuck it.
08-25-2016, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
One of the dumber posts I have seen. They ask for it for the same reason they ask for anything in the contract. MONEY! 10 to 30 million on one line item is significant. Taken in the context of hundreds of items like this it turns into big money even if they only get one out of ten.
08-25-2016, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
That's the point isn't it? When the company is making multiple BILLIONS, why would our "union" entertain even one of these "needs"??
I'm serious. I'm not trying to be snide. Do you have a plan?
Better yet, does the MEC?
08-25-2016, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
That's the point isn't it? When the company is making multiple BILLIONS, why would our "union" entertain even one of these "needs"??
08-25-2016, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by D Mantooth
Out of curiosity, tell me how once we're under the control of the NMB (which Tom Brielmann told us would be a "failure") you envision us getting a deal without entertaining anything from the company side. How does that play out? How long does that take? What does the mediator do when you tell him you only want to discuss our wants?
I'm serious. I'm not trying to be snide. Do you have a plan?
Better yet, does the MEC?
I'm serious. I'm not trying to be snide. Do you have a plan?
Better yet, does the MEC?
See! I can negotiate as good as Donutbelly's crew- I just turn the tables around...
08-25-2016, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
I'm willing to give them back $.05 of my hourly per diem for 22%-7-7. Don't touch my PS!!
See! I can negotiate as good as Donutbelly's crew- I just turn the tables around...
See! I can negotiate as good as Donutbelly's crew- I just turn the tables around...
My fault.
08-25-2016, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You are reading it incorrectly. Currently all management compensation except equity based compensation already counts against our profit sharing. The change is that equity based compensation would also count. That is estimated to be a worst case of about 150 million a year. That would reduce the PS pool by about 30 million a year of which we get about a third so it would result in a 10 million dollar reduction in the pilot pool.
What limits it to $150 million per? Are you using historical norms or is there actually a contractual limit to this clause?
Historical estimations are totally worthless if changes can made to the program.
I am not saying this will happen, but with the track record of DAL management we would be foolish to "trust" them.
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