Things I (we) don't like about TA
08-31-2015, 03:41 PM
#141
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Originally Posted by Raptor
TA 8.2.b Deviation Bank Credit that was thought to be a fix to unrealistic accepted fares only applies if you deviate prior to the beginning of the bid period!
Once again, I'm underwhelmed.
Once again, I'm underwhelmed.
08-31-2015, 03:47 PM
#142
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TA 8.C.4.c says that if you rebook your initial deviation ticket the pilot is responsible for the actual cost of the ticketing fee, not to exceed $25. It says these costs are handled in accordance with 8.C.5.c which mentions payroll deduction.
I'm not sure if these additional $25 ticketing fees can be claimed on your expense report or if they must be paid personally via payroll deduction.
I know I change my deviation tickets all the time as I trip trade, and for other reasons so I'm not happy with this if I read it correctly.
But, the language is hard to understand....what are your takes on this?
I'm not sure if these additional $25 ticketing fees can be claimed on your expense report or if they must be paid personally via payroll deduction.
I know I change my deviation tickets all the time as I trip trade, and for other reasons so I'm not happy with this if I read it correctly.
But, the language is hard to understand....what are your takes on this?
08-31-2015, 03:56 PM
#143
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Don't think so, you might be confusing base and established fares. You get the established fare if you deviate after the start of the bid month and the established fare is the actual ticket price which I suppose could be lower than the base (accepted equivalent) fare
08-31-2015, 05:28 PM
#145
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Maybe one of the reasons why Block 11 voted against?
I'm curious to hear how his LEC treasurer voted. She was against seeing the language, but she was the one reading the bonus talking points on utube. Some flipped...curious if she was one.
Sorry to dredge up old wounds and my biases. Didn't agree with the way we handled age 60 and I haven't moved past the 3rd stage of the 7 stages of grief.
And he was a huge proponent of the way it was handled.
08-31-2015, 05:37 PM
#146
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Originally Posted by Raptor
Do I read TA 8.3.e correctly that the company can DH a pilot back to Memphis if no commercial seat is available?
We keep on saying the company would be in a bind if pilots stop deviating. This now releases the company from this problem. They are smart--they keep removing items that could be "problematic" with any situation where they lose pilots' goodwill.
Pilots have gotten extra pay before because of the lack of air service to Memphis, now they'll just book you on the company Jumpseat and only have to give you a deviation bank. Say goodby to the sub/OTP "bonus" under these circumstances.
We keep on saying the company would be in a bind if pilots stop deviating. This now releases the company from this problem. They are smart--they keep removing items that could be "problematic" with any situation where they lose pilots' goodwill.
Pilots have gotten extra pay before because of the lack of air service to Memphis, now they'll just book you on the company Jumpseat and only have to give you a deviation bank. Say goodby to the sub/OTP "bonus" under these circumstances.
08-31-2015, 05:43 PM
#147
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Originally Posted by matty
What it says to me..."If a volcano erupts in xyz city, the company can jumpseat you back home." Good...probably not. But, not as dire as you claim.
08-31-2015, 06:21 PM
#148
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Want to make your head hurt and really get mad skip down and read the medical much higher and back to in network and out of network Doctors and the deductibles do not carry over between the 2. and after the deductible still a percentage you are out. No more going to the best doctor for a major issue etc.
08-31-2015, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptor
Another small giveback: hotel in lieu of deadhead changed from international to intercontinental. Can't use international hotel in lieu of DH in Hawaii, Alaska, Montreal, Mexico anymore.
I know guys that have spent an extra 6 days in Paris on the company dime, with FULL per diem, not that cheap pilot per diem.
Another reason to vote NO.
I've changed from just plain NO, to heck NO, and I am getting close to NFW!
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