Things I (we) don't like about TA
08-29-2015, 01:02 PM
#31
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Position: Bus driver
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
I didn't see those bullet points. Does it say how much notice you need to give? I see that as one of the most negative changes overall. Though we would all be happy if we get that chunk of change, I'm afraid it will encourage people who were going to retire soon to stay longer, just to get it.
08-29-2015, 01:18 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by DiamondZ
If awarded/assigned lower pay rate crew position and pilot becomes unavailable, will begin to earn that lower rate 90 days after when would have begun training.
Who/What defines unavailable? MLOA? Out sick?
Company changes things...hardly any foul. You get sick, you're responsible and there goes your pay.
08-29-2015, 01:25 PM
#33
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Here's something I don't like. The supposed value of the TA is $1.2B, blah, blah, blah... How do they come up with THAT number? Does it only count costs to the company (3% almost COLA), signing bonus, etc? Does it include the "efficiencies" suntracted out of those "costs"?? Elimination of Passover pay, 1st class DH, 6 week bid periods, etc? Can't find that info anywhere and as Tony has already pointed out on multiple occasions, with the bullet points, the math is less than perfect. Makes me quite skeptical...
08-29-2015, 01:29 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 777 CAP
Posts: 494
Originally Posted by busdriver12
I'm curious what you are missing when flying international business class, with lie flat seats. What do you get in first class that you don't in business? A pedicure and a happy ending?
You obviously haven't flown international first or you wouldn't have to ask that question.
. Where is the "YES" button?!
08-29-2015, 02:21 PM
#37
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Position: 75CA
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Originally Posted by switch monkey
Here's something I don't like. The supposed value of the TA is $1.2B, blah, blah, blah... How do they come up with THAT number? Does it only count costs to the company (3% almost COLA), signing bonus, etc? Does it include the "efficiencies" suntracted out of those "costs"?? Elimination of Passover pay, 1st class DH, 6 week bid periods, etc? Can't find that info anywhere and as Tony has already pointed out on multiple occasions, with the bullet points, the math is less than perfect. Makes me quite skeptical...
08-29-2015, 02:26 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by stevenscreek
Elimination of Passover pay???? For those that are assigned 777 training in the spring of 2017, new hires are in 777 ITU right now. So If true, Let's see that will cost us (or should I say .... Save the company......) 20k next year alone... So after the 10% raise is factored in, I am still down 10k..... Kinda makes this decision easy.... Send it back and try again.....
08-29-2015, 02:54 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
I'm curious what you are missing when flying international business class, with lie flat seats. What do you get in first class that you don't in business? A pedicure and a happy ending?
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