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Old 05-24-2016, 07:34 AM
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Please tell me I'm missing something. It sounds like we are hiring a consultant on retirement issues then we are going to ask to negotiate retirement. Shouldn't we have looked at this Billion dollar issue while we spent the last five years in contract talks.
Yes, exactly, 100% correct.

When we were sold the move from FPA to ALPA, we were promised that we would have much better lawyers and support during negotiations, and that the pilots would be better represented, so the company wouldn't be able to pull the wool over our eyes.

I am still waiting for better lawyers and support from ALPA.
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Full pull View Post
Please tell me I'm missing something. It sounds like we are hiring a consultant on retirement issues then we are going to ask to negotiate retirement. Shouldn't we have looked at this Billion dollar issue while we spent the last five years in contract talks.
Yes. .
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:47 AM
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I'm thinking some might consider a small pension adjustment if we got an extremely good profit sharing plan. Something like Delta's plan.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:52 AM
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Profits can, and are, manipulated.

The only change I am interested in is increase in my A fund payment.

Raise the high 5, or raise the multiplier.

I am too old to benefit from an increase in B fund.

You would have to come up with something that benefits both the old and young, so it is fair to both age groups. Don't screw the young to help the old, and don't do the reverse either.

I don't have a military retirement. Too many of us do, so they don't care as much about the retirement from FedEx of those of us that don't.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:48 AM
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... Shouldn't we have looked at this Billion dollar issue while we spent the last five years in contract talks.
Some wanted to...

...Then the lynch mob showed up.
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It means we are going to get screwed again in some way, shape or form.

We had leverage and didn't use it. ALPA let me down.
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer View Post
Profits can, and are, manipulated.

The only change I am interested in is increase in my A fund payment.

Raise the high 5, or raise the multiplier.

I am too old to benefit from an increase in B fund.

You would have to come up with something that benefits both the old and young, so it is fair to both age groups. Don't screw the young to help the old, and don't do the reverse either.

I don't have a military retirement. Too many of us do, so they don't care as much about the retirement from FedEx of those of us that don't.
Well said!
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Originally Posted by Nitefrater View Post
Some wanted to...

...Then the lynch mob showed up.
So, the lynch mob kept us from determining if the company's figures were accurate, concerning an increase in the A plan? Hardly! Thank God our NC didn't come up with some frozen A plan scheme, or who knows what based on what they thought they knew...This is unbelievable.

It's truly ridiculous, that we are just NOW going to do our due diligence! And seriously, could this not possibly prove that the lawsuit against ALPA has merit.
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Old 05-24-2016, 02:55 PM
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I have zero faith that Alpa will negotiate something that is fair for every pilot on property. They will probably forward a low ball offer for a vote. We will have 57% who say that was" the best we could get" or "we had no leverage."
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This is a stand alone item. We're not in negotiations, we're not delaying raises or contract benefits. It will be easy for every single pilot to judge the merits of changing this. Why would we accept anything short of better than what we have? The company is prosperous, and there is no reason to accept anything except for improvements, so why would we do otherwise?
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