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Old 08-11-2007, 01:49 AM
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Does anyone know if it is a requirement to take the RJ standards course? Ive been reading alot of the letter of agreements and they all seem to say "upon completion of RJ course" or "letter of recommendation by RJ standards director". I heard the RJ standards course was a waste of money and that same type of training will be given when you get hired at the reginal level. I woudn't mind saving the $5995.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:54 AM
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The only letter of agreement you need is your logbook indicating somewhere in the vicinity of 300 total hours and 15+ multi. No smoke and mirrors, ATP has not found the secret

save yourself the 6k and if you already havent attended ATP, dont, save yourself an extra 30k
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt View Post
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The only letter of agreement you need is your logbook indicating somewhere in the vicinity of 300 total hours and 15+ multi. No smoke and mirrors, ATP has not found the secret

save yourself the 6k and if you already havent attended ATP, dont, save yourself an extra 30k
Well put. Don't let anyone scam you, especially during a hiring boom.
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Well put. Don't let anyone scam you, especially during a hiring boom.

how long you think this hiring boom will last?
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how long you think this hiring boom will last?
I'll have to consult with my crystal ball on that one

But with freshly minted 400 hour wonders getting hired everywhere at the regional level, who needs a ripoff RJ course you're going to get paid to take once hired anyways?
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To let you know as well too, ATP is running short on instructors, so if you work for them after about 300 hours dual (I think), you can get the jet transition course for free. I got offered a job there and I'm gonna take it. My previous instructors told me that it helped out a lot when they went for the airlines.
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To let you know as well too, ATP is running short on instructors, so if you work for them after about 300 hours dual (I think), you can get the jet transition course for free. I got offered a job there and I'm gonna take it. My previous instructors told me that it helped out a lot when they went for the airlines.
I got thinking about this also. My take on the whole situation after careful consideration is train where you can get the best deal for your commercial and flight instructor ratings etc. This might not necessarily be ATP. Then go to work for ATP as a flight instructor to build multi-time, get the free jet course, and use their relationships to make the hiring process during this boom seamless.
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I got thinking about this also. My take on the whole situation after careful consideration is train where you can get the best deal for your commercial and flight instructor ratings etc. This might not necessarily be ATP. Then go to work for ATP as a flight instructor to build multi-time, get the free jet course, and use their relationships to make the hiring process during this boom seamless.
For what it's worth, two of the three people that washed out of my groundschool at TSA took a sim course. Through class they kept bringing up the CRJ. Guess what? We don't fly the CRJ. Learning something, then having to unlearn it and learn the way your company wants you to do something is not easy, especially when you add the firehose rate that is 121 training.

Read "The Turbine Pilots Flight Manual" and you'll have more than the basic systems knowledge for whatever jet you fly and you'll know what the instructors are talking about in groundschool.

Barring a catostrophic event, this "boom" isn't going to end anytime soon. There were many more people in my class that had 500/100 with no special connections than those with that time and an ATP course. The worst thing in the world to do is wash out of a 121 training program with 300 total. It's going to be hard to get another 121 job any time soon, and flight schools will be leery of hiring somebody that has already shown that they'll go to a regional as soon as they can. Oh, and you don't have enough time for 135 so there goes another option.
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what class you in for now pip?
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