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Old 10-04-2007, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an ATP written test prep software and have been going through the questions preparing for it.

I'm actually pleasantly suprised at just how many I already know, but am down right scared at the ones that I don't.

For example, all of the questions regarding charts asking you to calculate CG, if the CG limit was exceeded, CG shift if you move passengers, etc, how much is that actually used? In flight planning for the Hornet we have a software program that does that for us, and I don't even recall having to learn how to do manual calculations in training. While we don't have to worry about moving passengers or exceeding the floor loading for a pallet, we do make sure we know if we drop a piece of ordnance of a rack closer to centerline the ordnance left on the outboard rack may put us out of asymetric weight limits or if an external fuel tank doesn't transfer, etc.

Obviously the question isn't if you check your CG before flight, but if you actually do manual calculations. In prepping for the test questions like this, is this something where I can just memorize the answer for the test knowing I'll use software on the line, or should I go ahead and learn how to do it the old school way?
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have an ATP written test prep software and have been going through the questions preparing for it.

I'm actually pleasantly suprised at just how many I already know, but am down right scared at the ones that I don't.

For example, all of the questions regarding charts asking you to calculate CG, if the CG limit was exceeded, CG shift if you move passengers, etc, how much is that actually used? In flight planning for the Hornet we have a software program that does that for us, and I don't even recall having to learn how to do manual calculations in training. While we don't have to worry about moving passengers or exceeding the floor loading for a pallet, we do make sure we know if we drop a piece of ordnance of a rack closer to centerline the ordnance left on the outboard rack may put us out of asymetric weight limits or if an external fuel tank doesn't transfer, etc.

Obviously the question isn't if you check your CG before flight, but if you actually do manual calculations. In prepping for the test questions like this, is this something where I can just memorize the answer for the test knowing I'll use software on the line, or should I go ahead and learn how to do it the old school way?
Just take the extra time to learn how to attack and solve the questions you don't understand. Unless you need to take the test ASAP. If you can "do it the old school way" then you will understand what you are doing when you "do it the new school way."
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I understand your pain. I'm in the same boat. I've been avoiding the performance and flight planning questions. I guess I'm going to try the questions the old-fashioned way, and then once I know how to do it, memorize the rest.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The ATP (and ADX) test has such a vast amount of Q's they can draw from (like 1500) that I really just learned how to do each problem.

There are some short cuts for Wt and Bal on the Beech 1900 and the 727 that some guys might not see that can save time - but as far as memorizing stuff there is just to much they can throw at you.

The FEX test is easier than ATP ADX but the WT shifts and 727 stuff are all the same... so do all three at the same time is my advice.

No the Inst test that one is a blast - I think I did the test in 12 min. The long problems are very easily memorized. After you work them through legit - make a chart - aircraft types and destinations will tell you the answer.

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