Cessna v. Piper trainers
#11
I remember thinking that the Cessnas were just a little more forgiving in the trainer roll and a tad easier to land; but I much prefer the Piper products to fly. I was never a fan of the high wing and the I liked the throttle quadrant of the Pipers I flew over the push/pull controls of the Cessnas.
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USMCFLYR
Also, as far as high wing... I felt the same way most of you all feel... until I got into a decathlon.. that is a very fun airplane.
#12
Not saying that high wing can't be fun....but for whatever reason I've just always been partial to low wing aircraft. As soon as I could I got checked out in the Warrior and Archers and did my Commercial in a Arrow, which was also my favorite to fly x/c.
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#14
I agree with the stick comment.....I am also a fan of the stick (though I haven't tried side mounted. I look forward to maybe flying a Cirrus someday) I also haven't flown a Diamond product. What makes their quadrant better in your opinion?
Not saying that high wing can't be fun....but for whatever reason I've just always been partial to low wing aircraft. As soon as I could I got checked out in the Warrior and Archers and did my Commercial in a Arrow, which was also my favorite to fly x/c.
USMCFLYR
Not saying that high wing can't be fun....but for whatever reason I've just always been partial to low wing aircraft. As soon as I could I got checked out in the Warrior and Archers and did my Commercial in a Arrow, which was also my favorite to fly x/c.
USMCFLYR
I like the trim on the side stick of the Cirrus, it's very handy (no pun intended).
#15
Yeah, and with Piper shutting down its production lines, the schools, FBOs, and others looking to replace their fleets may look to Cessna if they don't want to switch over from sheet metal to composite airplanes.
#16
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The manual says 40, but I don't know if there is some modification I am not aware of.
#17
Well, not really. It's just that when you have the third flap setting locked in, you can still manually pull back and hold the flaps a little further back (because they are mechanical). I distinctly remember reading somewhere that doing so added about 15 degrees of flaps . . . dunno if it was in a POH/IM.
#18
Well, not really. It's just that when you have the third flap setting locked in, you can still manually pull back and hold the flaps a little further back (because they are mechanical). I distinctly remember reading somewhere that doing so added about 15 degrees of flaps . . . dunno if it was in a POH/IM.
As far as Piper vs. Cessna, it's preference. Cessna pumped out(and still does) produce more planes vs. pipers. So just by numbers alone it's that way. I love both, each for different reasons.
When you move up past trainers, Piper wins with the Malibu Mirage/Matrix IMO, but I'm partial because my company sells them.(10nm/gal efficiency at 70% isn't bad though is it)
#19
Yeah the POH definitely didn't have it. I remember now, it was in some NIFA thing about pulling the flaps back if you think you're gonna be long on a precision landing and how you would have to hold them back until you were on the ground to keep from getting a flap-retraction penalty.
#20
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Well, not really. It's just that when you have the third flap setting locked in, you can still manually pull back and hold the flaps a little further back (because they are mechanical). I distinctly remember reading somewhere that doing so added about 15 degrees of flaps . . . dunno if it was in a POH/IM.
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