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Old 08-08-2011, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Iím looking for some information on the Aerosim Academy in Sanford, Florida. Iíve been a long time luker on this sight and I have gotten a lot of good information. Anyway my question is how is the Aerosim Academy is regards to quality of training? I want to be an airline pilot; Aerosim looks like they have a great program. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the school? I want good training above all else. I like the idea of the structure of schools like Aerosim and ATP. Iím leaning toward Aerosim because they are accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges. Iíll tell you a bit about myself. Iím 25, I graduated from the College of Charleston with a degree in History and I have been working a desk job for a few years and I hate it. That being said I took some flight training in 2005 before I went to college and loved it, I quit because of going to school, a decision I regret to this day. I can and currently hold a Class 1. My goal is to get the best training I can and be to get hired by a Regional Airline.
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I’m looking for some information on the Aerosim Academy in Sanford, Florida. I’ve been a long time luker on this sight and I have gotten a lot of good information. Anyway my question is how is the Aerosim Academy is regards to quality of training? I want to be an airline pilot; Aerosim looks like they have a great program. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the school? I want good training above all else. I like the idea of the structure of schools like Aerosim and ATP. I’m leaning toward Aerosim because they are accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges. I’ll tell you a bit about myself. I’m 25, I graduated from the College of Charleston with a degree in History and I have been working a desk job for a few years and I hate it. That being said I took some flight training in 2005 before I went to college and loved it, I quit because of going to school, a decision I regret to this day. I can and currently hold a Class 1. My goal is to get the best training I can and be to get hired by a Regional Airline.

4 words "JUST ANOTHER FANCY SCHOOL" "NOT WORTH THE COST....."
No Offence & I am not against this school but that is what the TRUTH is....

Question is how are U funding your training??
If Loan then AEROSIM OR any such school will work..

If my son or daughter or brother ever wanted to do flying, this is what I would recomend.......
1) DO NOT TAKE A LOAN.... or Take as little as possible.
2) IF paying cash or self Sponsored, Then choose any cheapest FBO part 61 school for PVT & do in steam gauges conventional Airplane.....
3) Then Build time on your own for Instrument & commercial requirements & then finish up the last 30 to 40 hrs with a senior experienced instructor. 4) Buying your own 152 or 172 if possible, after your PVT, is also not a bad option, It will save U a lot of money & U can fly a lot of $100 or $200 hamburgers with friends sharing the costs.....

Avoid any 141 program if you can.... That's my personal opinion, there are a lot others who may differ with me.......
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Whoaa, I just did a little research and Aerosim wants $70,000 to get you through their program! Pilot Training Cost USA | Cost of Flight School | Aerosim Flight Academy Cost

That is pretty overpriced. I'm 23 with my multi engine commercial, instrument and about to have my CFI and MEI, all through the local flight schools in my area (Vancouver, WA) and can say I will probably end up spending less than $25,000 for all of it. Don't let their flashy sites and presentation fool you, they are not going to give you anything you can't get on your own through home study courses, a competent local CFI and reasonable renal rates through a home town FBO, and you will save about as much as you will make your first 3 to 4 years as a regional FO. In my opinion the most attractive aspect about these types of schools is their "placement services" and I'll admit, at times I wondered if just that alone was worth the extra cost but I finally decided it was not.

Watch their youtube video on their homepage on the bottom left; one of their reps states that airlines, due to all the retiring pilots in the next few years will be in a hiring "crises situation." If this is the case (which I also predict) than what commercial pilot looking for a job really needs to spend an extra $50,000 for help finding a job? But it really depends on your financial capabilities; if money is not an issue than I guess I don't see any other major drawbacks.

I don't know if you should go as far as buying your own 152 as bcpilot said because more times than not, ownership turns out to be more trouble than it's worth due to maintenance and operating costs, the stress of finding a decent airplane in the first place and a host of other baggage. For cheap time building, look for a flying club, or just hang out at an airport and find some other young pilot who was naive enough to buy his own airplane to build time and offer to split with him (They're out there!)

If you use home study courses for most of your ground work and the written tests you shouldn't have to spend more than $4500 to get your private. Then if you put a lot of time playing for free on microsoft flight sim you should be able to get your instrument at the minimum flight time and spend around $5000. Then onto the commercial and CFI, maybe another 3 to $4000.

Don't worry, as long as YOU are motivated to become a good pilot it doesn't matter where you get your flight training. After all, the big flight academies only have access to the same information the rest of us do. Put in the book work, study time, concentrate on becoming confident in any flying situation and you will end up with a promising career in aviation. Now, time for me to go study for that flight instructor written test!

Good luck!
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Old 08-09-2011, 10:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Please feel free to contact me anytime and I will help you understand the difference between our academyís training and other options available. scott.hanson@aerosimacademy.com

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4 words "JUST ANOTHER FANCY SCHOOL" "NOT WORTH THE COST....."

No Offence & I am not against this school but that is what the TRUTH is....
None taken at all, I'm just here looking for gouge and opinions. The big flight schools are looked down on by the majority on this board and PPRune.

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Question is how are U funding your training??

If Loan then AEROSIM OR any such school will work..
About 50/50 I have some money set aside and I'll be taking a loan or scholarship for the rest.

[QUOTE=bcpilot;1036020]If my son or daughter or brother ever wanted to do flying, this is what I would recomend.......

1) DO NOT TAKE A LOAN.... or Take as little as possible.{/QUOTE]

Obviously this is incredibly good advice, debt is never good

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2) IF paying cash or self Sponsored, Then choose any cheapest FBO part 61 school for PVT & do in steam gauges conventional Airplane.....
I did this route for my initial fight training, I'm not impressed by the quality of instruction I receved. I want the best training I can get. I could not care less about the age of the aircraft or "steam guages." It's the best training I'm after.

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3) Then Build time on your own for Instrument & commercial requirements & then finish up the last 30 to 40 hrs with a senior experienced instructor.
Again, this is something to think about but not exactly the method I'm looking for. I like the structure of a school program

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4) Buying your own 152 or 172 if possible, after your PVT, is also not a bad option, It will save U a lot of money & U can fly a lot of $100 or $200 hamburgers with friends sharing the costs.....
This is not an option, however I have unlimited access to a family members C-310 and Mooney Bravo to build time in, all I have to do is pay gas.

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Avoid any 141 program if you can.... That's my personal opinion, there are a lot others who may differ with me.......
I'm really curious as to why to avoid a 141 school? My dad who is a 747-400 Capt and he said to only go to a 141 school.

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Whoaa, I just did a little research and Aerosim wants $70,000 to get you through their program! Pilot Training Cost USA | Cost of Flight School | Aerosim Flight Academy Cost
The cost is a huge factor, but they have other programs that are not as expensive as well. I hope I'm not getting sucked into their good marketing but it looks promising to me at least. I've done the small FBO thing and I was not impressed with the quality of training or the consistancy. At 23 that is pretty impressive.

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In my opinion the most attractive aspect about these types of schools is their "placement services" and I'll admit, at times I wondered if just that alone was worth the extra cost but I finally decided it was not.
I feel the exact same way, the lowered mins with partner airlines and placement services ar HUGELY attractive to me, but again I dont know if they are $50k attractive.

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Don't worry, as long as YOU are motivated to become a good pilot it doesn't matter where you get your flight training. After all, the big flight academies only have access to the same information the rest of us do. Put in the book work, study time, concentrate on becoming confident in any flying situation and you will end up with a promising career in aviation. Now, time for me to go study for that flight instructor written test!
Good luck!
I think this is the biggest factor, self motivation. I want to do it, it's the lifestyle I want. I think this is a good time to do it as well. I have some connections in the industry and I want to get out there as soon as I can. Thank you all for the responses. I'm still looking for someone who has been through the program and how they feel about it. Was it worth it?
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Itís worth is inversely related to your personal level of self-motivation. If you feel you can only become a proficient pilot via a highly regimented, meticulously scheduled, babysitter type of flight school than then it will be worth every penny.

Warning: This is only one person's opinion! I would also love to hear what someone thinks who as actually been through one of these academies
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Itís worth is inversely related to your personal level of self-motivation. If you feel you can only become a proficient pilot via a highly regimented, meticulously scheduled, babysitter type of flight school than then it will be worth every penny.

Warning: This is only one person's opinion! I would also love to hear what someone thinks who as actually been through one of these academies
I agree with you!!! 100% I know I need it, that's how I learn best. I learned that in undergrad I should have gone to a military school!
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I'm really curious as to why to avoid a 141 school? My dad who is a 747-400 Capt and he said to only go to a 141 school.


I would go to a 141 school just elect to do your training 61. If you go 141 you will regret it, guarantee it. Friends don't let friends drink and drive. Same concept with 141 training. When your ready to start your 141 program PM me and tell me how you were sold on it. Please give me an opportunity to rebuttal.
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