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Old 10-08-2009, 08:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Well I will be starting my second year at ERAU this 09-10 school year. Did I enjoy the first year. Well Yes And No.
No due to the fact I had 30 hours previously and my local flight school shutdown and things came up which allowed me not to finish my private. So I go to the school and they basically started me all over. When the school year ended in April I decided to finish at home and I went home to a newer school and finished in a week. The Examiner I had was VERY shock how I was flying and the knowledge I had. But I was mad at myself because it seemed like my first flight instructor dragged everything out at Riddle.

Just sharing my experience so far.
If Im not mistaken unless you come in with a certificate in hand, all 141 schools affiliated with a degree program make you go through the whole course again. The way it was explained to me was its like a class I never finished so how could I be expected to get credit for it. So I just breezed through the Private Pilot course and got my certificate and moved on. I believe I learned alot more in doing so.
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Riddle is a complete waste of money.

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Old 10-08-2009, 07:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If Im not mistaken unless you come in with a certificate in hand, all 141 schools affiliated with a degree program make you go through the whole course again. The way it was explained to me was its like a class I never finished so how could I be expected to get credit for it. So I just breezed through the Private Pilot course and got my certificate and moved on. I believe I learned alot more in doing so.
Nope. More of the smaller schools recognize that you have flight time, and are willing to do stuff about it. Quite a few of them would probably allow you to just go part 61, and finish up the private, then move into the 141/142 environment.

The Riddle flight department finds any and every way to separate a student from their money. There are many other places that you can learn to fly way, way cheaper, in just as nice as equipment. And you can have fun doing it too!
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The Riddle flight department finds any and every way to separate a student from their money. There are many other places that you can learn to fly way, way cheaper, in just as nice as equipment. And you can have fun doing it too!
The sad reality is that most of the kids that go there have the cash in hand. 100K is nothing for their parents. They'll have to put off that Mercedes for another year. If they can afford it who cares? It's the other minority that can't afford it but thinks it's the only way to become a pilot that we are trying to save here.
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Now imagine a dorm room full of FEDEX, Southwest, EM190 and CRJ1000 posters. And a computer background of Maverick.
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OP----what is a UAV minor????? hope its not what i think it is.
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OP----what is a UAV minor????? hope its not what i think it is.

My guess is that it's another way to charge more.
Maybe it's an elective for the AF rotc folks.

Riddle is a business. Plain and simple.

I don't know too many people that actively try to persuade people away from their alma mater....except riddle grads.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I have two students with prior experience - one from a Part 61 school and one from a Part 141 school. (I'm a ERAU CFI BTW, at the Prescott Campus, which is Part 141. DAB is Part 142 still.)

For my Part 61 student: he soloed at his flight school. The Chief Flight Instructor (My boss) agreed to give him up to 1/4 credit from his previous experience. He had to do our pre-solo stage, but for each lesson, needed to show proficiency with each line item once. I then re-soloed him.

For the Part 141 student: he got credit for most of his experience since he was Part 141 and soloed already. Basically had to do a couple flights with him for stage 1 (pre-solo stage) to get him used to ERAU and the local area. I did not have to re-solo him.

Anybody real close to the end of their private training may opt to finish as Part 61 with an ERAU instructor, then take a Part 61 ride with a DPE. (We couldn't do this as a Part 142. A new course was made for that particular student.)

Anybody walking in with a license in hand will go through a Riddle standardization course.

Hope that helps clear up the confusion.
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And by the way....if I could do it all over again, it'd be UofA in Tucson with an engineering degree (almost free due to hard work in high school) and flying on the side, then getting a CFI gig at ERAU.
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I have two students with prior experience - one from a Part 61 school and one from a Part 141 school. (I'm a ERAU CFI BTW, at the Prescott Campus, which is Part 141. DAB is Part 142 still.)

For my Part 61 student: he soloed at his flight school. The Chief Flight Instructor (My boss) agreed to give him up to 1/4 credit from his previous experience. He had to do our pre-solo stage, but for each lesson, needed to show proficiency with each line item once. I then re-soloed him.

For the Part 141 student: he got credit for most of his experience since he was Part 141 and soloed already. Basically had to do a couple flights with him for stage 1 (pre-solo stage) to get him used to ERAU and the local area. I did not have to re-solo him.

Anybody real close to the end of their private training may opt to finish as Part 61 with an ERAU instructor, then take a Part 61 ride with a DPE. (We couldn't do this as a Part 142. A new course was made for that particular student.)

Anybody walking in with a license in hand will go through a Riddle standardization course.

Hope that helps clear up the confusion.

That sounds totally different that what they told us in DAB. Basically, if you didn't have your license totally done, they made you start from the beginning. Had a friend who came in with like 10 hours, and they told him to throw his old log book away, because it was "worthless".

You guys do a standardization course out there in PRC? I wish they would have done that in DAB. I came in with my private, and just got thrown into the instrument course. Instructor chewed me out the first flights, because I was "doing everything wrong". It wasn't wrong to me, I just didn't know how Riddle wanted to complicate everything.
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