Pilots helping pilots
View over 100 airline profilesAdd to Google



Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Foreign
Register FAQ Advertising Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Foreign Airlines that hire U.S. pilots

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-24-2007, 01:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 10
Default Emirates lifestyle

What should a US airline pilot consider when contemplating employment with Emirates based in Dubai?

What are some of the cultural differences in how the airline is run? How is the lifestyle in Dubai?

Is is worth it or is one better off holding out for a job offer from a US major airline?
Idaho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2007, 04:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Skyone's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: B777 Left
Posts: 414
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
What should a US airline pilot consider when contemplating employment with Emirates based in Dubai?

What are some of the cultural differences in how the airline is run? How is the lifestyle in Dubai?

Is is worth it or is one better off holding out for a job offer from a US major airline?
You're asking the same questions everyone of us that have left the land of milk and honey for time in the desert.

Numero uno question and the most important, IMHO, is whether or not you are married and or have kids. That is the wild card in all of the questions. Probably as a pilot you are used to changes and can adapt, but bringing a wife over can be challenging if she is at all hestitant. Most of the pilots are married and have kids, some adapt very easily and love it, some say "see ya, I am going home". And that's not just US pilots' wives. Two friends of mine, one from S. Africa and one from Germany are now solo and communting from Dubai. Tough act.

The airline is run very much like any big legacy airline in the states. Same issues, same problems. The training is different, but I would have to say the training in the US is different from the rest of the world (which is based on the UK, Australian model). In the US it is more like, we'll get this done and teach you how to do it right, the rest of the world is more like "mate, you need to know this." It is up to you to get it. Again, my opinion.

If you are coming over as a First Officer you can expect to be upgraded anywhere from 3-5 years. Some would say less, some would say longer. Today it is around 3+ years. The question you need to ask yourself, is where you want to be in 10-15 years. Would you see yourself still in Dubai? Many of the pilots have left carriers that have failed or are failing or lost a retirement from a US carrier or furloughed.

Depending on age and which carriers one is holding out for in the US, it is hard to answer that question. Again, the big factor is NOT the airline, which I happen to like, but rather living abroad for years on end. There does not appear to be anything in the works for basings outside of Dubai. And it doesn't matter whether it is Dubai, Cairo, Hong Kong, Seoul, or Frankfurt, the expat life is different and can be very challenging. You probably have certain expectations of how governments and services run. It ain't like that in the rest of the world.

Hope this helps and starts some conversation. Some of the comments you see will probably say, stay the hell away, others will say it's great, hurry over. But then again ask people what they think of the city in which you live. Probably the same answers.

S1
__________________
S1
Skyone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2007, 10:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 44
Default

its really nice reading a post that is constructive.
thx
S1
doogiebarnes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2007, 05:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
CPOonfinal's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 207
Default

I've been to Dubai 7 or 8 times and know the area enough to get around. Where are the pilots and their families living? Surely not in the houses bordering the golf courses?!? If my memory serves me correctly, the apartments around town are for the "contract" workers. Just curious.

I would go to Dubai on vacation or to even live anytime. I love that place. Hotter than any other place I've been but great shopping and eating. If you get a chance you have to go to the JW Marriott (I'm pretty sure that's the place). They have a German bar where the employee's dress in traditional German attire. There's nothing like seeing a middle-easterner wearing a "yodelahehoo" outfit, LMAO. Great golf too. Played both courses and prefer the Montgomery.

Example of the traditional German outfit, I term "yodelahehoo" outfit: http://www.germanfortravellers.com/c...r/clothing.htm
__________________
"Trust but verify"
Ronald Reagan

Last edited by CPOonfinal : 10-25-2007 at 05:49 AM.
CPOonfinal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2007, 09:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 15
Default

>>>You're asking the same questions everyone of us that have left the land of milk and honey for time in the desert.<<< It is the other land of "Milk and Honey" .....Camel Milk and a girl named "Honey" at Cyclones!
MaxEPR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2007, 09:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A332/A340
Posts: 69
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxEPR View Post
>>>You're asking the same questions everyone of us that have left the land of milk and honey for time in the desert.<<< It is the other land of "Milk and Honey" .....Camel Milk and a girl named "Honey" at Cyclones!

Cyclones closed 6 months ago. Besides, old joke.

Good answer from Skyone.

Can't add too much other than to emphasize that there are 2 separate issues: Dubai and EK. EK isn't perfect but pretty good. Dubai, well, some people hate it, and some people don't mind it. Even if you like it, it's a bloody long way from home. I wouldn't move here without a good visit and some long talks with someone here that I trust.

Good luck.
bus canuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 07:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: EWR XJT CA
Posts: 12
Question Dubai social life

Can't seem to find the answer to this one.....

How's the Dubai social life for the younger (early 30s) unmarried type? Easy to meet people?
imr125 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 09:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Position: B777 Captain
Posts: 648
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by imr125 View Post
Can't seem to find the answer to this one.....

How's the Dubai social life for the younger (early 30s) unmarried type? Easy to meet people?
Yes.

TP
Typhoonpilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 09:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
atpcliff's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: DC-9 Contract Capt
Posts: 676
Default

Hi!

I was just reading that the Brits now outnumber the Dubaiins now. My buddy is leaving soon for EK, and I am thinking about it (actually, my CEO is thinking about it).

cliff
YIP
__________________
TRY.
atpcliff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 11:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
On Reserve
 
Fearless Leader's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: the cosmos somewhere
Posts: 16
Default Yup

This place is definatly "London" in the desert.....

Hope you like what they refer to as "music" because the radio stations here SUCK......

Use your iPod or CD's

Last edited by Fearless Leader : 11-13-2007 at 11:49 PM.
Fearless Leader is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/18171-emirates-lifestyle.html
Posted By For Type Date
Emirates | BoardReader This thread Refback 09-03-2008 12:17 PM

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Opinions needed, Emirates orville Foreign 13 08-05-2007 04:35 AM
Emirates Interview Prep sirocco45 Pre-Interview 14 11-30-2006 08:46 PM
Emirates Hiring Typhoonpilot Foreign 72 05-23-2006 10:46 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:55 AM.


Copyright ©2000 - 2009 Internet Brands, Inc.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7