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Old 01-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ryanair is probably one of the worst companies to work at. I was approached by them and turned them down, no thought required. They are desperate for pilots, I know a bunch of 250hr pilots getting right seat.

Regarding the picture ... Europe is what aviation was in America in the 70s. Still respected. Let's hope that can last.
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To work at Ryan Air, don't you have to have a right to work in the EU, unless you have 500 pic 737 time? I think the right seat guys are all Euro ab-intro guys. Has that changed?
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To work at Ryan Air, don't you have to have a right to work in the EU, unless you have 500 pic 737 time? I think the right seat guys are all Euro ab-intro guys. Has that changed?
Yep, the right sear is mostly ab-initio guys. But you will get Modular students getting the jobs, they are desperate for pilots. But beware that you will have to give up an arm and a leg before getting a job. You PAY to get it, and it ain't cheap, ever pay for a 737 type rating???
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Yep, the right sear is mostly ab-initio guys. But you will get Modular students getting the jobs, they are desperate for pilots. But beware that you will have to give up an arm and a leg before getting a job. You PAY to get it, and it ain't cheap, ever pay for a 737 type rating???

Actually, in the states I believe its "relatively" cheap compared to getting one in the EU for a JAA cert.

Don't they call those "self sponsored" programs over there?
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Does Ryan help out with license conversion, FAA to JAA?
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Actually, in the states I believe its "relatively" cheap compared to getting one in the EU for a JAA cert.

Don't they call those "self sponsored" programs over there?
Everything is cheaper in the US. Just to compare, the best flight school in the US is considered FlightSafety (Im talking name, so please don't jump all over me) and the best one in Europe is Oxford.

When I went to FlightSafety it was around 45,000 dollars for the Professional Pilot Program. Oxford is about 120,000 dollars from 0 to FROZEN ATPL.

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For the type rating, you are absolutely right, in the US you will find cheaper type ratings.

The Modular students are usually self sponsored, but you also have Integrated students that are self sponsored aswell. The good thing about Europe that the US doesnt have, is AIRLINES if you have the grades will pay for your training and gurantee you a job. So you really don't have to be a millionare to become a pilot, just do good in school and you will have the opportunity to get a right seat job in a major carrier.
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Don't think so, they ask for JAA license and a 737 type rating. If you do not have the type rating you will have to get one through them, and it is not cheap.

If you are a Captain with a 737 type rating they will go out of their way to get you a work permit (This might be good for American pilots who want to make the move) If you are non rated, you will need the right to live and work in Europe.
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The good thing about Europe that the US doesnt have, is AIRLINES if you have the grades will pay for your training and gurantee you a job. So you really don't have to be a millionare to become a pilot, just do good in school and you will have the opportunity to get a right seat job in a major carrier.
I've heard this. BUT, was there not a brief time not too long ago when the KLM academy had the students pay, then interview for the job. If you got the job, KLM payed you back. If you didn't get the job, well, too bad?
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Don't think so, they ask for JAA license and a 737 type rating. If you do not have the type rating you will have to get one through them, and it is not cheap.

If you are a Captain with a 737 type rating they will go out of their way to get you a work permit (This might be good for American pilots who want to make the move) If you are non rated, you will need the right to live and work in Europe.
I am and I have the 500 PIC in type. I will be sending them my info and see where it goes.
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