A whole bunch of guys put in their app, interviewed, got the job and were just flushed because they were in the pool for 18 months due to no fault of their own.
The primary reason that those guys were flushed is they were RJ guys. It would appear a decision was made to go back to the old standard of only hiring pilots with time in heavier jet aircraft, preferably modern Airbus or Boeing. It sucks for those who were in the pool who still wanted to join, but it does show how Emirates will change terms and conditions on a whim. Those affected have no recourse. Much like those living in Silicon Oasis have no recourse on the utility allowance cap.
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And now they have to pay their own way back if they want to re-interview. Sounds like a great place to work.
Up until a few years ago interviewees had to find their own way to Dubai. EK provided hotel and food for the entire stay, but airfare was on your own dime. Not apologizing for this change, but it does show how Emirates thinks. They are very cost conscious and if they think they'll get enough applicants who are willing to pay their own way to interview then they'll keep making them do so. Only when people won't pay their own way there will it change.
The hiring processes of airlines abroad is very different than what we are used to in the west, the first mistake is to consider that there is such a thing as a "pool" there isn't, not like we know it. When you are informed that you successfully passed the interview process only means that your application went to the next step and that you are being further evaluated with the results of the background check and they grade all the applicants that have passed up to that point and select the ones that scored the highest overall score during the application process and those get the job offer, having passed the interview doesn't mean in any way shape or form that you have the job it only means that you are on the "semifinals" of sorts, the first thing you need to do when applying for an international job is to forget your concept of things like "hiring pool" it doesn't exist. Individuals that have been sent letters saying that they no longer are being considered it is not that they got flushed from any pool or a job offer have been retracted, it simply means that you didn't make it to the finals.
I think it really depends on the company and whether or not is is contract or regular employment. EK is not a contract job but I'm not too familiar with their hiring practices. As for CX, we do have a pool but we are also not a contract gig so maybe that is the difference. Either way, after all the prep it would definitely stink to find out the job prospect is gone.
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
The primary reason that those guys were flushed is they were RJ guys. It would appear a decision was made to go back to the old standard of only hiring pilots with time in heavier jet aircraft, preferably modern Airbus or Boeing. It sucks for those who were in the pool who still wanted to join, but it does show how Emirates will change terms and conditions on a whim. Those affected have no recourse. Much like those living in Silicon Oasis have no recourse on the utility allowance cap.
Yeah, that move sent ripples of fear through a lot of guys that have been hired here at CX as well. I asked our recruiting department and they said we don't have an official policy but they expect they will keep the guys that already passed the interview. Hopefully they won't get any ideas and do the same.
Can't confirm the numbers, but an EK FO told me that they had about 50 FO's move from EK to EY this year.
TP haven't heard from you in a while...Been working max hours for the last four months, we need to promote more captains in our neck of the Sand Pit.
i knew that there could have been no exchange of pilots between ek and ey,but now it seems to be incorrect,regarding the fact that many pilots jumped from e to ey,isn't it?
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Hmmm.... excellent rosters... one calendar month off a year.... 2 times two weeks off a year... payroll makes the bank when scheduled... yup, I'm happy.
Basically, there is a formal way of employment a western way and informal way referring to a contract type . As for the formal employment, one needs to pass an exam in a native language of a country or in english, if somebody got the point. Secondly, for a formal position means a permanent one, which is without additional worries, one needs a permission for performing his job, like a notrification of a license. So basically, one if agrees to renew his knowledge then is going through some additional trainings, and is staying at a permanent base with the right to live at a normal basis. And this is great cause no worries, and one also may discover the continent of a permanent base. Note please that the permissions are being given by the Authority or Ministries. And it is great. Basically, then there are no quarells or having a felling of being left behind. However, one needs to look at the smaller countries of the world less known. As for a contract note that the main airlines they ask you a question what was a contract all about? WHo gave the contract? WHy did you agree for this contract? Why you could not go further being on a contract was it a contract with a further going possibilites or not? If not, why you did not contact us earlier? And then you say this and that, and at the end you hear we will help you anyway. But, please response the correspondence. Or let us know when you would like to come and join us?
This is European way of thinking. Shall be back to flying in December the last one, cause it is not a job as I thought I like after making my license.
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MeLu... what are you trying to say?
Lets take an airline that hires pilots to be their employees. This airline also uses the services of contracted pilots via an employment agency. Now... is it your position that pilots employed by the airline are treated better than the contracted employees? Is it your position the airline's interview process is different for either pilot group? Do you think that the airline protects it's own employed employed pilot versus a contract employee?
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