Thank you for your help. I posted earlier and asked where to apply these days. I got a lot of help, pople most said Africa, China or India will be good options. But which airlines in India, China and India? Any websites or things??
Thank you in advance!
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Hi guys!
Thank you for your help. I posted earlier and asked where to apply these days. I got a lot of help, pople most said Africa, China or India will be good options. But which airlines in India, China and India? Any websites or things??
Thank you in advance!
You need to Google contracting agencies so you can contact them by either phone or e-mail.
PARC Aviation
Rishworth
Direct Personel
Brookfield Aviation
A lot of pilots say there are jobs in Africa - they are right and wrong at the same time. Africa (at least as far as Central Africa is concerned) is far from being similar to the US. There are in fact jobs but they are not given easily to foreign pilots - the only place I can think of that has an affiliation to a US company is Air Serv that flies for the UN - they are rightfully very picky in their selection not because of the flying but because of the working and living conditions. Not everyone can take it. I have a good friend of mine originally from Nigeria who left Skywest to fly a Hawker for a corporate just a month ago. Funny thing is is making 3 times as much as Skywest in a country that cost 3 times less to live. What a bargain for him. He had a similar offer flying at Arik. He kept telling me you have to know someone in a company (which he did) or be there to meet the recruiters otherwise you are very likely going nowhere. That's the reality so unless you can work out something, I would say don't be surprise if you don't hear anything regardless of your experience.
As for China, they are looking for experience. Experience mostly in B737s and A320s. You won't find anything at an airline with your level of experience. Don't forget you are not only competing with US pilots but also with a ton of qualified European pilots. With your experience I would look into Panam Flight Academy. They fly with Chinese student pilots in the DA40 and DA42. I know only one person who went there and left after one week - this was 4 years ago. He couldn't deal with the living conditions. This being said, the flight school didn't hide anything from him. He acknowledges that he was too impulsive.
Don't be too desperate to pick just anything out there just to "fly". And if you do, don't be surprise with the living and working conditions. Sorry to be so negative - I know it's not what you want to hear.
I have a good friend of mine originally from Nigeria who left Skywest to fly a Hawker for a corporate just a month ago. Funny thing is is making 3 times as much as Skywest in a country that cost 3 times less to live. What a bargain for him. He had a similar offer flying at Arik.
Is he based in Abuja now? If you're an African, and to some extent, African descent, you have a much better chance getting a job, as witnessed above. Hopefully a smart move for him overall, since racking up FO hours at a regional in the US is worth about zero.
The cost to live in Nigeria is not necessarily 3 times less to live. If you want to live in near first world conditions, it probably costs much, much more. There are no McDonalds anywhere in Africa. Security costs money. Any car you'd own will get the living sh*t pounded out of it driving on these roads. Nice hotels and restaurants are very expensive. Cabs aren't even cheap, unless you want to ride on the bike of an okada (motorcycle) with maybe one or two others, plus driver.
Last edited by TonyWilliams : 10-28-2009 at 10:47 PM.
I am not really sure but yes I believe it is Abuja. He really believed in better living and working conditions until he joined the regionals. I think it left him with a taste of disgust. He did his type rating at Flight Safety, sold everything and just left. And now he enjoys it even more flying all over Africa and sometimes Europe making way more than his first or second pay at Skywest. In his case, you are right, it was the best move he could have done. For us? I am not sure.
Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies and Kiwis regularly start their careers in Botswana flying a C206 full of tourists. Try outfits like Sefofane in Bots and Namibia. Usually they are looking at 300TT with some time on a C206 or similar. A check out of four or five hours should do.
Pick up a JP Fleet guide as it has all the operators, their contact details and equipment.
Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies and Kiwis regularly start their careers in Botswana flying a C206 full of tourists. Try outfits like Sefofane in Bots and Namibia. Usually they are looking at 300TT with some time on a C206 or similar. A check out of four or five hours should do.
Pick up a JP Fleet guide as it has all the operators, their contact details and equipment.
Good luck.
True dat, but a good many pilots end their careers in Africa as well. The proof is in the mishap databases. I criss-cross that entire continent and I have seen a lot of airplanes, or things that look like planes that I would not leave the ground in, unless it was just up on jacks
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What was the name of that truck driving school?
Last crash I heard of there was a young Kiwi pilot and a load of tourists a few years ago. Stall spin on final in a rookie mistake. Otherwise, I don't believe it is any more dangerous, in that part of Africa specifically of course, to your average mom and pop air taxi.
I think maybe you're referring to the Russians, who crash all the time, and low grade operations like Hewa Bora, who get away with it most of the time.
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