upspeed

Thanks TP!

I'm on the road right now, but I'll be returning here with some more details about the conditions by the end of this week.

Cheers!

Upspeed.

upspeed

Dear Gents and Ladies,

As promised here are the outlines of the draft contract for FO´s that I received during my october screening at EVA:

1. Salary during training:
- NT$ 137,000 non-typed
- NT$ 139,000 A320/F100/B717 Captain
- NT$ 141,000 A330/B744/B777/MD11 typed

2. Salary after training (from first operational flight):
- NT$ 188,000 non-typed
- NT$ 190,750 A320/F100/B717 Captain
- NT$ 193,500 A330/B744/B777/MD11 typed

This includes Basic Monthly Salary, Duty Allowance and Incentive Flying Allowance (75 hours guaranteed), overtime pay in excess of 75 hours. No per diems included AFAIK.

3. Accomodation provided at company facilities

4. 8 block days off per month, or 16 per 2 months (sick days reduce the days off in a pro-rata basis by the way...so if half of working days sick during one month then you´ll get only 4 days off)

5. Annual leave (entitled to after "turning point", which is 3 months after first operational flight)
- 22 days for first 3 years
- 25 days for years 4-5
- 29 days for years 6-9
- then +1 day for each year so forth after 10 years of employment

6. Travel benefits
- 1 free ticket per year for pilot+dependants on EVA´s network (economy)
- ID90 and ID75 tickets (economy)
- It doesn´t show on the draft contract, but I´ve been told that pilots and dependants are also entitled to ZED tickets on other partner airlines

7. Medical leave 30 days per year

8. Medical insurance
- covered by national health insurance, but employees are responsible for 30% of the premium and some other service fees
- family is subsidized for 70% premium up to US$ 200/month

9. Accident insurance up to 45 months´ salary

10. Loss of license subject to most updated Loss of License Insurance Policy (sorry, don´t know what this means!), covered from first operational flight up to 55 years of age

11. Training bond
- 4 years
- US$ 60,000
- same for all fleets

12. Taxation 13-21% subject to nr of dependants and pay

13. Pension subject to ROC Labor Standard Law (again, I have no idea what this is!)

14. Probation 6 months

There should be also an yearly bonus equivalent to roughly one month´s salary, but again this isn´t written on the draft contract.

I hope this helps and please feel free to correct and/or add any additional info.

Fly safe,

Upspeed.

Controlled Rest

US$6,600 / month for a typed wide-body captain? Why would anyone even consider that?

captjns

The same reason a DEC would accept a position with Ethiopian on $60.00 a day during training which could take up to 3 months for the B737.

The Dominican

Well, I've seen people lately make moves that absolutely makes no sense whatsoever (to me anyways) on the surface it may seem that they are just seeking to change jobs just for the sake of changing jobs! But, everyone has to follow their path I guess. EVA does present a good opportunity to gain experience to tick boxes you may need to jump into another job eventually, that seems to be what most folks do while working there, it is known as a stepping stone job.

upspeed

Please note that this is the payscale for First Officers, not Captains. It does say that if you´re already rated as a A320/F100/B717 Captain previously then your salary would be NT$ 190,750 per month, but flying as a FO for whatever fleet EVA will assign you.

I have no idea what are the Captains payscales...AFAIK EVA doesn´t hired DEC anyway.

Upspeed

Typhoonpilot

EVA has a lot of payscales for Captains. It would depend on when the person was hired. The original batch of Captains back in the early 90s were close to $15,000/month. The later ones were down around $9000/month.

That contracted pay that Upspeed posted is an improvement from the early 2000s when the F.O. pay was closer to $5000/month.

As stated, EVA is a stepping stone job, nothing more. Used for that purpose it can be beneficial to the write person. In the late 90s they were hiring Dash 8 and RJ pilots into the right seat of a widebody. Not many other places would do that.


Typhoonpilot

Controlled Rest

Ok then, let me rephrase: US$6,600/month for a typed widebody FO? Why would anyone even consider that? It's not quite as bad as $6,600 for a captain, but it's not much better.

minimwage4

That's ok, you won't be home much to spend that money anyways, they only give you 8 days off per month. That's about 5 or 6 days on in a row every week flying longhaul. Must be tough.

upspeed

I agree with you 100% that the pay is not "competitive" or maybe even compatible for an experienced widebody FO, but I can think of a few very good reasons for signing such a contract: beeing unemployed, getting close to the magical 12 month recency and unable to find anything better due to the increasing number of P2F schemes throughout the aviation industry (even with thousands of medium/heavy time flown in Legacy Airlines)...How does that sound?

Cheers,

Upspeed.