Junglejett

What about QOL...schedule....the normal stuff.

Thanks in advance.

Pilatapus

Are they willing to bend on the 1000 ME requirement? My current ride hasen't been filling the logbook with multi time, a good amount of PIC turbine though.

Pilatapus

[quote=Bill Lumberg]Netjets is hiring if you would rather fly jets. quote]

I don't know when but Avantair will be buying Embraer Phenom 100 jets.

Anyone know why they would be adding a jet with the same service ceiling that only has 30 kts more speed with a smaller cabin and fewer seats than the Avanti? Why not something larger or faster?

HaZMaT

Pilatapus,

Send the resume in, worst case is they will weed it out, best case, you will get a call. Be ready for the call.

My guess on why the Phenom was selected has two parts.

First; the Phenom fits the VLJ market that Avantair currently serves. The Phenom is half the cost of a P180 and will allow entry into the market place of fractional flying at a lower income range.

Second; It would align Avantair with an aircraft manufacture whose selection of aircraft cover many markets. And whose aircraft are proven performers in the regulated world of aviation, ie Part 135 and Part 121.

Just my thoughts on the topics, others will have their opinions. I haven't heard or seen anything official yet.

FlyingDog

They probably got a stormin finance deal as well being a launch customer in the Frac. market too - just my .02

Pilatapus

Sound reasonable to me. Thanks for the insight.

BoardPilot

My guess is that they are going for VLJ's because that is what their customers (owners) want to fly in.

402DRVR

Anyone know if they pay pilots during training? Do they provide lodging? And how long is the program?

Bzyflyn

actually, Avantair had Premiers and nearly all the owners preferred the piaggio to the jet. Most of em still do which is why they bail out of Netjets or chartering beechjets and just love the P180. You gotta realize that with the Avanti the only real or (perceived) advantage a jet has to the people in the back is EGO and a little bit of speed. I ran some people from the east coast to Columbus ohio for a ball game. As we were taking off a hawker 800 was taxing to the runway. He landed 30 minutes ahead of us, woulda been less but ATC dropped us to let him over the top. We flew 2.5 he flew 2.0 all to move the same size cabin the same distance and his owner spent well over 4 times the money to do it.

Bill Lumberg

It is undeniable that Avantair has tapped into a great niche that could continue to grow for a long time. It provides jet-like performance and, in many cases, more comfort for a lower cost than all of the other fractionals. The market is inherently bigger - more people can afford cheaper fractions than more expensive fractions. No other fractional is planning to offer a competitive product at the same or lower price point - unless it somehow buys Avantis. So long as Avantair can maintain its financial viability, this company should be a great employer.

And, as a pilot you get to fly some nice equipment on a super-wide variety of routes/layovers from many different domiciles. Sounds like a great deal to me. And those Embraer Phenom 100s look like they will be fun to fly too when they eventually get on the line. I would say growth prospects at Avantair look a lot better than at the other fractionals if you want to get to the left seat of a high performance aircraft sooner than later...