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Old 07-06-2010, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by metrodriver View Post
the truth be told. the word is, no recalls or hiring till next year, which is a bunch of #@%$, they will continue to work us and keep uping the "yield". this is what happend when they layed off before. also there really isnt any "recall rights" because the people were technically fired. so they are going to have to re-interview when the time comes. pretty lame. with that said, remember that things can change overnight.
This is harsh. I'm very sorry for the FlexJet pilots if this turns out to be the case.

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Old 07-06-2010, 04:51 PM
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they will be called first and unless you did something stupid or cant pass the wiz quiz, you should fine. lord knows we could use at least 20 pilots back, this is the "slow" season, ya right, ha ha. when "busy" season comes they will have to do something because "F" bombs will be dropped
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by metrodriver View Post
they will be called first and unless you did something stupid or cant pass the wiz quiz, you should fine. lord knows we could use at least 20 pilots back, this is the "slow" season, ya right, ha ha. when "busy" season comes they will have to do something because "F" bombs will be dropped
And with that - the doing something stupid or not passing a whiz quiz I'm good with - but they shouldn't have to *interview* again - like actually compete for their jobs back in my opinion. If they were good employees when they left then there seems to be no reason not to give them their jobs back when times "pick up again".
Of course I'm not a fan of people who have already been hired into a pool having to interview again for the same jobs that they were already offered either.

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Old 07-07-2010, 02:53 PM
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Metrodriver is misinformed. The 85 were not fired; they are considered inactive employees by Flexjet. (Contributions to the 401k and employee stock plan continue to vest.) There is a contractual obligation to bring back these pilots in seniority order, which is good for two years from the date of furlough. No interview, just training.

Whether or not Flexjet calls back is obviously up to management - but if they want to add pilots prior to March 2011, they already know who they are.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:08 PM
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Metrodriver is misinformed. The 85 were not fired; they are considered inactive employees by Flexjet. (Contributions to the 401k and employee stock plan continue to vest.) There is a contractual obligation to bring back these pilots in seniority order, which is good for two years from the date of furlough. No interview, just training.

Whether or not Flexjet calls back is obviously up to management - but if they want to add pilots prior to March 2011, they already know who they are.
And I suspect,,, that they will call people back in order, no matter what the date. But,,, as I wonder what the heck the thinking is over there,,, management has always been true to their word.

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Old 07-08-2010, 02:54 AM
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I haven’t been on the board for awhile but I hopped on tonight to see what type of info is floating around.

Unfortunately, I’m one of the 85 and have heard all kinds of things. I’ve sent emails to a couple ACP’s and really don’t get much in terms of definite answers regarding callbacks. The only thing that I’ve been told is if they do not get us called back by the 2 year agreement then they might extend it, or we would be given “preferential” treatment in being rehired, which I think is ridiculous, but they didn’t ask me. Also, I haven’t even sat in an airplane since my last rotation, so going through their sim interview would be a waste of time for all of us. I have even heard something about the FAA legislating age limitations for 135 operators. Has anyone heard any truth to that?

I don’t see how FX could call back those that were furloughed by the timeframe outlined in our contract (that I’m not talking about). It would be outstanding if they were to extend our contract, but I don’t see how it could be beneficial for FX. I truly miss my FX brethren and would be back in the seat tomorrow if I had the chance. What a great group of people at FX and I hope you’re all doing well! Has anyone heard anything to the contrary, or have anything to ad?

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Old 07-12-2010, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jetset View Post
The only document signed by both parties (myself and management) was the severance package document.
...which is a contract between the parties that signed the agreement.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jetset View Post
I'm not arguing that the severance doc was a contract. I am saying that the "recall roster" was a separate document and was NOT contractual because it was not signed by both parties (furloughed pilot and Flex).
I'm not an attorney, but I watch alot of "Law and Order" and did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....

The recall roster was referenced in the contract, therefore it is included in the contract by that reference. If they decided to just drop a few names (which I am confident they will not do) the dropped person whould probably have a cuase of action against the company.

Bottom line: my experience is that Flex is a stand-up company and will treat its furloughees right when recalls happen.

Which will hopefully be soon.
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:26 AM
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I don't agree with that "contractual obligation" statement either, I've never heard of that. Sounds more like a preferential hiring agreement to me. Here's a thought, if and and when anyone gets recalled, would you start at 1st year pay, the pay you left at, or the pay you'd be making had you stayed???

In other news, I hear that they are shuffling some pilots around, taking some FOs out of the Lear and into the 300, as they are expecting some (meaning one I think) 300 deliveries. Also, folks are complaining lately about not being able to bid down, so there is some discussion about lowing the yield. Of course any change like that would take forever to get done
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:35 PM
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After talking with one of the pilots there, they say that the word is that they are going to be parking some of the 60's and put those pilots in the 300's. I am not sure how many 60's they are parking and I am sure that that number is not out there yet.
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