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Old 11-07-2009, 07:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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This is where got interesting. The fueler finally got the right ground position for the cable(on the main gear strut, not the exhaust pipes!!!)
Does it really matter? (Honest question, not trying to be an ass). I was a fueler many years ago, and all of our training (official videos from aeroshell or whoever) stated to attach the ground line to any metal part of the airplane that was in contact with the frame. They specifically mentioned both exhaust ports and landing gear. Why is the exhaust port not acceptable (Now obviously, if a guy had obviously chromed or polished exhaust ports, I wouldn't clip the ground line on there because of courtesy, but that's just me).
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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DET......stick with the grounding procedures that the fueling company taught you. Pilots fly planes....they aren't fuelers. Some pilots can fly great but have no sense of the grounding concept.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Clipping the bonding cable to the exhaust pipe will cause dissimilar metal corrosion. Stick to the designated bonding points per the POH.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:54 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Does it really matter? (Honest question, not trying to be an ass). I was a fueler many years ago, and all of our training (official videos from aeroshell or whoever) stated to attach the ground line to any metal part of the airplane that was in contact with the frame. They specifically mentioned both exhaust ports and landing gear. Why is the exhaust port not acceptable (Now obviously, if a guy had obviously chromed or polished exhaust ports, I wouldn't clip the ground line on there because of courtesy, but that's just me).
You aren't being an ass, honest questions, not attacks are appreciated in my book.

It's a known point on the Malibu/Mirage/Meridian/Matrix to clip the grounding wire to either main gear struts. As a pilot, an instructor, and a rep for my company who sells them, I explain and teach it to all of our owners/buyers of these aircraft the appropriate location. I would also expect the same from the fueling crews out there. I know there's a book out there that has fueling points, etc.. for each airplane(I saw it when I used to be at YIP AvFlight East almost every night as a freight pilot).

This grounding-point won't damage anything, it's unpainted and strictly intended for grounding during fueling. I honestly hate seeing grounding wires attached to exhaust stacks/nose-gear, etc... I know it's "acceptable," but I just hate seeing all the scratch marks etc... left behind on someone's new $1mil+ airplane
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