Search
Notices
Fractional NetJets, FlexJet, etc

Xojet

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-06-2016, 07:06 AM
  #831  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,197
Default

Originally Posted by ebuhoner View Post
Hello! Couple of questions to you guys.

1-How much money yearly do you guys average with the atlantic points?
2-if you want to work overtime to make those extra $600 a day is it easy to get? Or not likely?
3-can you eat and also drink beer with those $80 a day? 😅

I would love to work there I currently fly as an FO in a Citation Excel for an owner that I dont like very much but he pays me about 70k a year so Im trying to figure out if I can make a little more than the $52200 published in the APC pay scale site.

Thanks!
1 - Atlantic bucks vary each rotation. Some years you may average 2000.00 and others 3000.00. I came in just over 3000.00 for 2015. Taxable income of course.

2 - As far as involuntarily getting home late on your last day and getting the extra $600.00, it happens, but I would say not that often. Guys do however notify the company and make themselves available for extra flying either a day or two prior to a rotation, or at the end of the 8 day rotation. That happens quite a bit, but it depends on the needs of the company whether or not they need the help. Around holidays and peak season, you can get it quite often if you wish.

3 - You get reimbursed UP TO 80.00/day for actual meal expenses. Not to be confused with a perdiem. Alcohol is not reimbursable as that would present a legal issue. It's a big kid system. If you abuse it, you will be called onto the carpet to explain yourself. However, if you've been playing by the rules and you have had a tough trip, or some long days and you feel like treating yourself to a nice steak and you go over the 80.00 a little bit, they understand.

Upgrades are running 11-12 months on the Citation X right now and about 16 months on the Challenger. The Challenger upgrade time is coming down too.
TurboDog is offline  
Old 02-06-2016, 07:25 AM
  #832  
Gets Weekends Off
 
ebuhoner's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Brazilian Left Seat Driver
Posts: 197
Default

Originally Posted by TurboDog View Post
1 - Atlantic bucks vary each rotation. Some years you may average 2000.00 and others 3000.00. I came in just over 3000.00 for 2015. Taxable income of course.

2 - As far as involuntarily getting home late on your last day and getting the extra $600.00, it happens, but I would say not that often. Guys do however notify the company and make themselves available for extra flying either a day or two prior to a rotation, or at the end of the 8 day rotation. That happens quite a bit, but it depends on the needs of the company whether or not they need the help. Around holidays and peak season, you can get it quite often if you wish.

3 - You get reimbursed UP TO 80.00/day for actual meal expenses. Not to be confused with a perdiem. Alcohol is not reimbursable as that would present a legal issue. It's a big kid system. If you abuse it, you will be called onto the carpet to explain yourself. However, if you've been playing by the rules and you have had a tough trip, or some long days and you feel like treating yourself to a nice steak and you go over the 80.00 a little bit, they understand.

Upgrades are running 11-12 months on the Citation X right now and about 16 months on the Challenger. The Challenger upgrade time is coming down too.
Great Info! Thank you!
ebuhoner is offline  
Old 02-07-2016, 02:21 AM
  #833  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MOGuy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CRJ200; FO
Posts: 391
Default

Originally Posted by TurboDog View Post
1 - Atlantic bucks vary each rotation. Some years you may average 2000.00 and others 3000.00. I came in just over 3000.00 for 2015. Taxable income of course.

2 - As far as involuntarily getting home late on your last day and getting the extra $600.00, it happens, but I would say not that often. Guys do however notify the company and make themselves available for extra flying either a day or two prior to a rotation, or at the end of the 8 day rotation. That happens quite a bit, but it depends on the needs of the company whether or not they need the help. Around holidays and peak season, you can get it quite often if you wish.

3 - You get reimbursed UP TO 80.00/day for actual meal expenses. Not to be confused with a perdiem. Alcohol is not reimbursable as that would present a legal issue. It's a big kid system. If you abuse it, you will be called onto the carpet to explain yourself. However, if you've been playing by the rules and you have had a tough trip, or some long days and you feel like treating yourself to a nice steak and you go over the 80.00 a little bit, they understand.

Upgrades are running 11-12 months on the Citation X right now and about 16 months on the Challenger. The Challenger upgrade time is coming down too.

On the Atlantic bucks doesn't it say you'll only get a 1099 if you exceed 600.00? On CA I flew with says he has accounts for his wife and kids as well so they don't ever exceed the 600.00 and don't have to report it.

Just found this On the site:

"This total represents YTD payment, including the prior year’s awards funded during the 5-day grace period. Amount Funded will match your 1099 form, if you receive $600 or more, but may not match your Atlantic Awards earned this year."
MOGuy is offline  
Old 02-07-2016, 05:40 AM
  #834  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 124
Default

Originally Posted by MOGuy View Post
On the Atlantic bucks doesn't it say you'll only get a 1099 if you exceed 600.00? On CA I flew with says he has accounts for his wife and kids as well so they don't ever exceed the 600.00 and don't have to report it.

Just found this On the site:

"This total represents YTD payment, including the prior year’s awards funded during the 5-day grace period. Amount Funded will match your 1099 form, if you receive $600 or more, but may not match your Atlantic Awards earned this year."
You can have accounts for family members and avoid taxes by funding less than $600 on each account. You can't open an account for anyone under 18.
LJ JE is offline  
Old 02-07-2016, 09:05 AM
  #835  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: Left seat
Posts: 273
Default

I made a little over $60,000 as an FO this past year, which included Atlantic bucks, fuel savings program, and a bunch of half overtime pay days. Could probably make more working full overtime pay days, but i enjoy my time off and not feasible with young child at home. Also on a side note, made about $1,500 in tips. Tips are hit or miss, don't count on them.
dirtysidedown is offline  
Old 02-09-2016, 08:45 PM
  #836  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 73
Default

How does international base work? sorry if this is redundant question. what are some of the countries for int. base? thx
subin30 is offline  
Old 02-10-2016, 05:19 AM
  #837  
weekends off? Nope...
 
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,940
Default

Originally Posted by subin30 View Post
How does international base work? sorry if this is redundant question. what are some of the countries for int. base? thx
I wouldn't count on it working at all. The only guys that live outside of the CONUS have been here for years and are grandfathered in.
Smooth at FL450 is offline  
Old 02-10-2016, 08:43 PM
  #838  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 73
Default

Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 View Post
I wouldn't count on it working at all. The only guys that live outside of the CONUS have been here for years and are grandfathered in.
Oh I see. Thanks for the info
subin30 is offline  
Old 02-13-2016, 12:04 PM
  #839  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 21
Default

Looks like some good info on here, just one question hopefully I didn't miss:

I see the 8/6 schedule listed on the airline page, or 14/13 for "int'l or Hawaii" based pilots. Is it possible to opt for the 14/13 schedule as a default or is everyone pushed towards 8/6? As a Mon-Sat guy right now I feel like I work all the time anyway, so clustering time off sounds just fine to me.
thehead is offline  
Old 02-13-2016, 12:08 PM
  #840  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,383
Default

Originally Posted by thehead View Post
Looks like some good info on here, just one question hopefully I didn't miss:

I see the 8/6 schedule listed on the airline page, or 14/13 for "int'l or Hawaii" based pilots. Is it possible to opt for the 14/13 schedule as a default or is everyone pushed towards 8/6? As a Mon-Sat guy right now I feel like I work all the time anyway, so clustering time off sounds just fine to me.
I believe new hires are awarded sched slots that the company requires at the moment. Then after a year you bid the sched like everyone else. I don't think you'll ever be "pushed" into a 15/13 (not 14). i think less than 8 or so guys are on that sched.
Learflyer is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jetjockee
Fractional
110
08-19-2014 01:47 PM
flyhi
Corporate
6
01-05-2009 08:23 PM
Bill Lumberg
Fractional
44
10-16-2008 10:08 AM
USMCFLYR
Fractional
17
09-20-2008 05:29 PM
G400driver
Fractional
1
09-18-2008 07:52 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices