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01-04-2013, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by surfnski
Shot in the dark here but, any news/rumors of recalls soon?
We have a bunch of young guys who wanna go to the majors for different reasons. Things might change a bit once those guys leave, but other than that, no movenment
01-04-2013, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Airplanes only make money when they are in the air. I know it's a simple concept, but it is so true.
01-04-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The dude
That's why you're always better off flying a plane that makes no money. The best jobs are the ones where the plane just spends money. :-)
Caterpillar has a flight department, but they don't need their own jets to sell earth moving equipment.. they're going to sell their products wether their executivess fly on company aircraft, charter or airlines.
But I see your point, I fly for a fractional, if my plane doesn't make money I don't have a job
01-05-2013, 07:15 AM
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in today's "fiscal climate" if the asset, in this case an airplane, does not clearly facilitate business operations / close deals / etc , or directly earn money for the company (shareholders), kiss it goodbye. Just ask the Big-3 auto executives how that little deal worked out.
(Unless you fly for Rich Guy who owns a plane as basically a toy, and you are his pilot. But I would argue that is not in the truest sense of the word a "corporate flight department" it is "I fly for a rich guy").
(Unless you fly for Rich Guy who owns a plane as basically a toy, and you are his pilot. But I would argue that is not in the truest sense of the word a "corporate flight department" it is "I fly for a rich guy").
01-05-2013, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
in today's "fiscal climate" if the asset, in this case an airplane, does not clearly facilitate business operations / close deals / etc , or directly earn money for the company (shareholders), kiss it goodbye. Just ask the Big-3 auto executives how that little deal worked out.
(Unless you fly for Rich Guy who owns a plane as basically a toy, and you are his pilot. But I would argue that is not in the truest sense of the word a "corporate flight department" it is "I fly for a rich guy").
(Unless you fly for Rich Guy who owns a plane as basically a toy, and you are his pilot. But I would argue that is not in the truest sense of the word a "corporate flight department" it is "I fly for a rich guy").
01-05-2013, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
The big three didn't close their flight departments because it wasn't supporting the operation/facilitating business deals/etc... they did it because rather than standing up and legitimately stating why they had a plane they folded to a bunch of congressional weenies. The same weenies that in many cases fly around on the government equivalent of corporate aviation, or on jets owned by constituents and other contributors.
01-05-2013, 09:20 AM
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Not to get into politics but Mr. Obama lowers our stock everytime he attacks the "wealthy private-jet travelers"... He doesn't understand the bizjet industry creates thousands of jobs (pilots, F/As, caterers, mechanics, rampers, people who build the airplanes, etc)
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