Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash

Over / under on how long the caddy sticks around after the new contract is signed?

Originally Posted by B727DRVR

Hey UCLA,

Over on the other thread "To all Fractional Pilots", an amazing debate has been raging on in regards to the benefits vs. disadvantages to being represented by a union vs. being an at-will employee. Suprisingly, few Netjets pilots have chimed in as to whether they would like to give up their CBA and go back to pre-2005 pay and work conditions. Or even in the pay-for-training days before a union existed.

You do realize the union at Executive Jet pre-dates Santulli and Netjets, right? And that pay-for-training was on the Teamster's watch?

It amazes me that these debates ever start given the obvious higher levels of pay, working conditions, and stability enjoyed by union pilots. But these conversations always start.

Unions are always a mixed bag. Usually better pay but rarely more stability. Ask Pan Am. Or Eastern. Or Branniff. Or....

So, would you rather be non-union and have no contract? Or are you happy with the contract that you were able to negotiate?

I wasn't around for the negotiation of the current contract. I was unilaterally "blessed" into its loving embrace in 2010.

As for me, I have never met a pilot that had representation that had a contract, even a bad one, that would rather go back to being an at-will employee.

Really? I know plenty who would.

So, inquiring minds want to know.... Has the Union been a good thing for Netjets pilots or a bad thing?