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Old 03-07-2013, 04:49 PM
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Hello all. I know that both NetJets and Executive Jet Management are part of Berkshire Hathaway and that NetJets owns planes and EJM really is just a plane manager. Looking at the companies from a pilots perspective, what are the real differences? There is a lot of info about NetJets but almost nothing about EJM. Do they work the same schedules, make the same pay for flying the same aircraft?

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Old 03-07-2013, 05:54 PM
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There is a lot of info about NetJets but almost nothing about EJM. Do they work the same schedules, make the same pay for flying the same aircraft?
In a word - NO.
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EJM manages airplanes for clients; they don't own the planes. The schedule (subject to some guidelines) are set by the owner; terms and conditions are mostly set by the owner and most, but not all, flyng is done for the owner. Some owners are better than others.

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Correct, Netjets, EJM and Flight Safety, same owner, many differences

EJM can be a really good deal if the aircraft's owners are good people. But if the owner leaves the program, and you want to stay with EJM you're gonna have to move (unless you live in N.Y or California) And you'd have to take whatever EJM gives you.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:13 PM
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Like previously posted, totally separate companies. NJA is a unionized pilot group with standardized work rules, pay scales, etc. All generally seniority based on upgrades and equipment openings, schedules, etc. 91, 91K, and 135 flying.

EJM, however, is totally separate and different. Pilots are interviewed and selected by the individual owner of the aircraft (with EJM assistance). Pay, QOL, etc is totally based on the individual aircraft's owner. 91 and 135 flying. If EJM loses the management contract of the aircraft, there goes the pilots job. Of course you may interview for another managed aircraft, if a seat or opening becomes available. No guarantee. Also, if you are SIC on a Excel in California, and the owner of another Excel in Maine is looking for a PIC, again, no guarantee of interview, and the Maine Excel is under no obligation to do so. You are not entitled to the seat at all just because you work for another EJM managed aircraft. You may have been an SIC on the California Excel for years, and the Maine Excel (again if separate owners) has no obligation to hire or interview you for their Excel. They can hire whomever they want (if qualified of course).
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What is EJM's pay? Or is it dependent on the owner?
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Originally Posted by Gjn290 View Post
What is EJM's pay? Or is it dependent on the owner?
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EJM, however, is totally separate and different. Pilots are interviewed and selected by the individual owner of the aircraft (with EJM assistance). Pay, QOL, etc is totally based on the individual aircraft's owner. 91 and 135 flying.
Seems to be dependent on the owner as stated by CTOGUY in the post above yours.
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Oops, I totally overlooked that.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:27 PM
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sheeesh probably better to start your own charter!

I would love to do that..
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