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Old 04-05-2015, 08:44 AM
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Std Dev calls it 100% right!

In the SAV center I got the "right to work state" speech on day one of indoc by the center assistant manager. Pretty well set the tone of "you work, we tell you when, no questions allowed." Soured me about the place on day one and set my resolve to leave as fast as I could.

Schedules were always changing by the minute. In SAV the Gulfstream plant had an awesome and cheap cafeteria right door to the training center. Only problem was the doorway to the cafe was right next to the scheduling office. We would go out the fire escape at the back of the center to avoid walking past scheduling!

Outside flying? In SAV you were allowed to contract during your vacation time but never as PIC. Only issue was you never knew if your vacation was going to be honored or moved around.

Going non current is the true kiss of death. I was there about 6 months and went to a startup 121 outfit that required me to repeat the type rating course on a plane I had over 1000 hours PIC and a current 121 proficiency check.

I truly hope the instructor pay is addressed there, FSI instructors deserve it, from about a decade ago.
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Old 04-05-2015, 04:49 PM
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Well, there goes ANOTHER civilian aviation gig I am crossing off the list.

Oh well, the list keeps getting shorter and shorter.

Thanks for the information though.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:48 AM
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Would any "on the side flying" have mitigated this?
DFW encouraged us to fly - but you had to work it into your schedule. Unfortunately, hardly anyone takes a day trip in a G-IV! So it's real tough to work out. To mitigate the legal/insurance FSI has a strict set of guidelines - one guy that owns an aircraft is not likely to have that sort of liability in place. So the requirements could realistically only be achieved by larger Fortune companies.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:54 AM
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Sounds like they bend you over like all the other companies.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:55 AM
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Going non current is the true kiss of death.
Made the short list for a Fortune 250 company with a Dallas base. Got down to two candidates. They went with the other guy. One of the other base CPs discussed it with me after the the fact and I had a "come to Jesus" moment. The CP said it was strictly currency. Otherwise it would have been me. Crushing blow and at that point I knew I if wanted to continue flying I'd need to leave.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MD11 View Post
Thanks for the response KingAirDriver,

I am guessing Flightsafety is concerned about potential lawsuits in the event of an accident.

Another thought that came to mind concerning Flightsafety,,
I'm wondering how they will do competing for pilots. I suppose they could staff with retired airline pilots, but that might difficult to run a biz with employees that only want to work one day a week.
The retired airline guys used to be common years ago. Why? They retired at 60 and needed a place to work that would provide medical insurance until they qualified for Medicare at 65. Now with the increased retirement age at 121, the guys over 60 are dwindling. I've actually seen instructors dragging along a medical oxygen bottle and cannula when teaching in the sim.
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Old 04-06-2015, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by av8n View Post
Sounds like they bend you over like all the other companies.
I guess it depends on the program. I worked as a right seater on the GIV in DFW for a little bit, and most of the GIV guys had it pretty easy. I think it is the slowest program in the building. There was one guy who was teaching in two aircraft, and he seemed to be busy.
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:41 AM
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Any update on conditions and pay at Flight Safety. Its been a year since the last post and I was curious if Flight Safety has addressed these issues. It seems the market has gotten only tighter for talent.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:55 PM
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I am currently at CMH FSI. As far as working as a slave depends on which NJA fleet A/C your assigned. Two year contract for your type. If you want you can fly your sim or the others I have been told so you can fly. Also you can rent A/C and buzz around the pattern but no flying on the outside contract wise. Check out the glass door for salary info pretty spot on.

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Old 04-11-2016, 06:05 AM
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