Encore, XLS and Phenom 300 @ Netjets
#21
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
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The XL is idiosyncratic , and that is putting it mildly, boots on the tail, hot wings, movable stab, blazing .75 Mmo, but it does have a semi stand up cabin, and an APU, there are still nice moments on these tours the one leg days with the 1pm shows ( occasionally), balanced with the 5 leg days and 0430 am shows, Aspen, Akron, and everywhere in between, plus the islands, Mexico, and Canada, questions?
#22
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: If its got wings I'll fly it
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Good point about Flightaware. Also helpful would be perceived pros/cons of the Sovereign, Hawker and X by pilots who have flown them. Obviously each aircraft has its idiosyncrasies and it would be helpful to newhires to hear opinions early.
I am guessing Macjet was not a fan of the Excel.
I am guessing Macjet was not a fan of the Excel.
X
Day one: 11:17a show, Airline WN PBI-TPA, taxi to PIE, fly pax PIE-BED 2.3, off at 9:38p, Doubletree
Day two: 9:48a show, ferry BED-BNA 2.4, pax KBNA-TXKF 2.3, ferry TXKF-KPBI 2.6, off at 8:56p, Marriott
Day three: 8:00a show, pax PBI-CMA 5.0, off at 4:42p, Hampton Inn
Day four: 7:15a show, limo CMA-VNY, Pax VNY-SBP-VNY 1.2, ferry VNY-LAX 0.3, off at 6:11p, Hilton
Day five: 4:00p show, airline VX LAX-SFO, rental car SFO-APC , pax APC-SLC 1.4, off at 1:43a, Hilton
Day six: 3:30p show, airport standby, off at 10:00pm, Hilton
Day seven: 8:12a show, airline DL SLC-ATL-PBI, off at 8:27p
XL
Day one: 7:00a show, limo PBI-FLL, airline US FLL-PHL, Uber PHL-PNE, off 6:30pm, Crown Plaza
Day two: 6:15a show, pax PNE-FRG-CON-FRG-PNE 3.2, off 4:53p, Crown Plaza
Day three: 8:30a show, pax PNE-PBI 3.6, ferry PBI-07FA 0.5, off 4:40p, ORC Hotel
Day four: 9:00a show, pax 07FA-PBI 0.6, ferry PBI-OCF 0.8, pax OCF-SAV 0.9, ferry SAV-GSO 0.9, limo GSO-MEB, off 8:30p Hampton Inn
Day five: 11:00a show, pax MEB-PBI 1.7, pax PBI-OCF 0.8, ferry OCF-SUA 0.7, pax SUA-BED 2.8, off 10:35p, Hilton Garden Inn
Day six: 5:00p show, taxi BED-BOS, ferry BOS-BED 0.5, off 8:46p, Embassy Suites
Day seven: 10:30a show, pax BED-TEB 1.1, limo TEB-LGA, airline DL LGA-PBI, off 9:45p
Is that what you were looking for?
#23
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Don't think MacJet is a fan of life. In his defense the Sovereign is the worst hand flying plane on earth. Great performance but that is it. The Hawker is a better machine. No experience with the X. Change is the name of the game. If you don't like it you won't like NJ.
#25
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Position: Furloughed
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MacJet. I was just messing with you. I too hate that stuff but it is the best I can do until something better comes along. Like I tell everyone flying is such a small part of the job at NJ. You are a flight attendant/lineboy who gets to fly sometimes, especially if you are paired up with the wrong guy.
NZNV's post is right on. Don't come here for the airplane because like I said in a previous post you don't get to pick anyway and whatever plane they assign you you will be in it for 39 months at least.
NZNV's post is right on. Don't come here for the airplane because like I said in a previous post you don't get to pick anyway and whatever plane they assign you you will be in it for 39 months at least.
#26
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MacJet. I was just messing with you. I too hate that stuff but it is the best I can do until something better comes along. Like I tell everyone flying is such a small part of the job at NJ. You are a flight attendant/lineboy who gets to fly sometimes, especially if you are paired up with the wrong guy.
#28
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: NJA CE680 terminated
Posts: 124
The Sovereign is an SUV. It can carry a big load out of small fields, go transcon with a smaller load. It's not the fastest jet out there but can do .80 after you burn off some fuel. I once flew 4 big guys and a lot of luggage out of Ocean Reef to Pawakee (-2 spelling) in the early afternoon in August. Not many jets can do that. The avionics and automation are just average, nothing special, but ok. Never had any beefs about hand flying, but maybe I'm just an above average stick (LOL). The line was "If you have a house in Telluride and one in NJ and needed a plane to ferry mom and 3 kids (plus nanny and dogs and all their stuff) back and forth, the 680 was your plane."
#29
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Position: NJA CE680 terminated
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Macjet, you are in the wrong line of work. Go somewhere else. I did almost 40 years of major legacy flying. Maybe you would fit there. You would probably still ***** (You are a pilot, right?). Some people actually enjoy the frac life. When I started my airline career, people thought flying was something special and we tried to make it special. Over the years, it deteriorated to a bus line in the air. When I came to NJ, I loved the fact that we could make it special again. I told people that "If it's not unsafe or illegal, we can probably make it happen." Of course they paid for it. It's not for everyone. Getting up in the morning not knowing where you would sleep that night would bother some people. It required flexibility that some of my friends could not understand. Worked for me. To each his own.
Disclaimer: I was furloughed in 2010. The conditions at NJ under RTS were different than now. I hope they can get back to that culture.
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Disclaimer: I was furloughed in 2010. The conditions at NJ under RTS were different than now. I hope they can get back to that culture.
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