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Old 04-13-2015, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailaway View Post
Macjet, you are in the wrong line of work. Go somewhere else. I did almost 40 years of major legacy flying. Maybe you would fit there. You would probably still ***** (You are a pilot, right?). Some people actually enjoy the frac life. When I started my airline career, people thought flying was something special and we tried to make it special. Over the years, it deteriorated to a bus line in the air. When I came to NJ, I loved the fact that we could make it special again. I told people that "If it's not unsafe or illegal, we can probably make it happen." Of course they paid for it. It's not for everyone. Getting up in the morning not knowing where you would sleep that night would bother some people. It required flexibility that some of my friends could not understand. Worked for me. To each his own.

Disclaimer: I was furloughed in 2010. The conditions at NJ under RTS were different than now. I hope they can get back to that culture.

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Why do you feel the need to attack someone with a differing opinion or to offer unsolicited advice to someone you don't know? I've managed quite fine for a long time without your input. Feel free to voice your opinion but I couldn't care any less about your whimsical career advice. It may come as a surprise that some pilots have different perspectives, backgrounds, needs, and desires than yourself. I didn't like NJA and left. Others love it. I hope whatever you're doing now keeps you happy. Fly safe.
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Old 04-13-2015, 12:40 PM
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New hire here. Completed IOE yesterday. Yes, it's crazy busy at NJA. If it's not, then you should begin to worry. I found every NJ pilot and person associated with NJ to be welcoming, professional, and STILL happy to be here. My IOE Captain has been here for 16 years and I thoroughly enjoyed his attitude and flying with him. I choose to have a positive attitude, and will hold my head high as a new hire. Things will get better for us here at NJ. I honestly believe that. If you're not happy here, enjoy your jumpseat into Newark. To each his own, but don't try to drag me down with you. I say again, welcome to all the new hires! See you out there.........somewhere.
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:20 PM
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I am on the Hawker 800/900. We do break a lot, but when you have a good aircraft, you will fly your a$$ off. The Hawker has range, so you could be out west one minute and then get a brief of SNA to TEB. We do have a pretty good comfortable flight deck for a corporate jet (it helps, but still doesn't make 14 hour days enjoyable). The Collins FMS and autopilot on the aircraft is really nice. The only thing I don't like about the aircraft is the nose wheel and rudder pedals aren't connected. Once you get use to transferring controls at 80 kts, it's pretty good aircraft. Oh yeah... There is no baggage compartment, all bags are loaded in a closet. So we really don't get hammered will bags .
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:10 PM
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Lakingsfan13.

Excellent reply to the original questions. Very detailed and good review of your pros and cons of the Hawker. Everyone has different viewpoints and opinions of aircraft they fly or have flown.

I am sure many of us would love to hear more opinions and pros/cons of aircraft flown at Netjets.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:42 PM
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At least Mooneymite and the other XLS pilots at Netjets have this to look forward to:

https://www.netjets.com/fleet/Cessna-Citation-Latitude/

Looks quite nice!!!! Will we see them on the line in 2015?
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:16 AM
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95% of the XL/XLS captains are awesome. Beware if you get one of the 5%ers. By that I mean guys that wont fatigue (or try to piggy back on your fatigue call), wont call in sick when sick, and fly broke airplanes all due to fear of perceived retribution or perceived pride.

Everyone else has pretty much nailed the sorry excuse of a jet airplane.
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Old 05-12-2015, 02:36 PM
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I have been flying the Phenom 300 for a bit and it is a nice aircraft. I came from an XLS prior to coming to NetJets and while I loved the XLS, I don't miss the APU in the least bit. The AC in the phenom works better than bleed air. The avionics are really nice, the 300 is the most advanced light/medium jet in the NJA fleet avionics wise. It is a really nice flying airplane, performance is great. Lack of a standup cabin sucks but oh well. The brakes take getting used to but trust me, TRs are not needed on this bird. I am 5.6" and I find the cockpit more roomy than the XLS. Those with long legs will have trouble though. It seems like it has a good fleet of captains as well.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:07 PM
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I was out for 4 days in the Hawker and flew 2 legs. No MX issues...
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jaybird View Post
95% of the XL/XLS captains are awesome. Beware if you get one of the 5%ers. By that I mean guys that wont fatigue (or try to piggy back on your fatigue call), wont call in sick when sick, and fly broke airplanes all due to fear of perceived retribution or perceived pride.

Everyone else has pretty much nailed the sorry excuse of a jet airplane.

Thank goodness the new Citation Latitude is on the way for all of the frustrated XLS pilots! I hear the Latitude is a big step-up for both the pilots and the passengers. How soon before we will see the Latitude in Netjet's colors? End of 2015?
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:17 PM
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Is it still a 10 year upgrade in any of the fleets?
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