par8head

Check out this Radar video from AOPA concerning an incident in March when a F-16 pilot decided to mess around with some guys in a Pilatus and Lear Jet....


AOPA Online: FAA releases radar video of F-16's close call with GA aircraft
NOT COOL...


Cowboy like flying is stricly prohibited at Comair inside joke...

hslightnin

unsuspecting pilots of a Pilatus PC-12 and a Beechcraft Premier jet flying through an active military operations area

well there's your problem

BankAngle09

HAHA i would prolly do the same thing for fun...

when i was instructing in SLC area out over the flats, f-16's out of Hill AFB would use us once in a while to track, center would let us know though...

ONGLIDE

Did the pilot say 10 feet? Even if it was 30 feet thats close...

BlueMoon

Bet they won't go in an MOA again. Problem solved.

NE_Pilot

That doesn't solve anything, those guys didn't do anything wrong. It was the F-16 pilot who was in the wrong.

USMCFLYR

If a military aircraft joins into a parade formation on a civilian aircraft then they are not following anyone's rules.
With that said - I'm curious about the TCAS advisory. I don't fly with TCAS; but I understand that some of the advisories are basically directive in nature. Is this correct? I imagine that flying around with TCAS in a MOA could give lots of false alarms. Also - the F-16 pilot might not have been out of his assigned airspace either; the Premier jet mentions flying along at FL190. The radar return certainly makes it look like a stern conversion so I would have to guess that the F-16 knew he was there all the time and was purposeful in their intercept (no other military aircraft around at the time?) Now - 10' - wow. That sure is hoping the other pilot doesn't move suddenly when he all of the sudden realizes that there is another aircraft on his wing.

USMCFLYR

boilerpilot

Unacceptable. What's that about "character unbefitting of an officer"? And flying formation with other AC without their knowledge or approval? A MOA is our airspace just as much as theirs, it's simply a warning area, not an excuse for F16 pilots to show how well endowed they must be.

cbire880

You have two types of TCAS advisories in modern aircraft. TAs and RAs. TAs are Traffic Advisories and as indicated are advisory in nature. RAs are Resolution advisories and will indicate a climb or descend command with visual guidance to avoid the traffic. Unless you have visual contact with the traffic, RAs are mandatory to comply with. You get TAs a lot due to projected conflicts with fast movers. You'll get them a lot descending on an arrival that passes just over a departure or vice versa from the closure rates alone. I had a TA just last week from an F-16 beating feet out of ACY on the VCN arrival to PHL. We were at 10000ish on the arrival and he busted up out of there like a bat out of hell heading for feet wet. Looked a lot like an alert launch scenario to me. By the time ATC(ZNY) mentioned him, we had the TA, tally, and he was through our altitude. Pretty cool actually.

Swedish Blender

Happened all the time before TCAS. If the F16 would just turn his Xpndr off, he/she could sit there all day and only set of a TA not RA which maybe the case. Notice the Lear jet asked if the F16 had him in sight and said he had a TA and had to climb. Nothing about having a RA. Couldn't copy a number because he had to get the plane under control? Really?

http://www.flight1photo.com/gallery/...185_6fW9C-A-LB