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Old 01-16-2009, 08:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I know that the dash 8 when flying empty we can typically rotate to 15 degrees nose up or so at pitch for V2 and maintain around 6 thousand feet per minute or so until close to 10 thousand feet on a nice cool day. It depends on the plane but without any actual hotdogging it does pretty well for a prop.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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A friend of mine that flies the X says that he has held 5-6k fpm up through 10k' a few times.
The Dorknob was like that when it was light. The best I saw a on normal climb profile was 6600 fpm till 10k at 18 degrees nu at 250kts. Heavier weights it dogged around 3-4500..

On an empty repo it was usually 25 degrees nu just to keep from exceeding the flap speed. The airplane accelerated way quicker the the CRJ/ERJ does. After about 60 kts on the TO roll the airspeed trend vector would peg.
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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An empty Lear 24 can make 10k on takeoff before reaching the end of a 5500' strip. FWIW.
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Maybe from Leadville!
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I've never heard of FOQA till this thread. Just read up a little on it on the web. I guess its an electronic means of keeping a leash on the cockpit crew? Anything to do with that RJ crash awhile ago where the crew tried to take it too high? The site that I was reading said that there are only a few US airlines that are currently making use of FOQA.
FOQA has been around for about 15 years. The "Dude, 410" incident didn't have anything to do with it. Most airline unions have LOAs that basically prevent FOQA data from being used to go after pilots. It's primarily a trend monitoring/safety initiative.

I ferried a 145 last winter that was light on fuel and the temp was about -15. At 4000 feet I had to pull the thrust levers back because I was at 20 degrees nose up and about to accelerate right through the barber pole.
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FOQA has been around for about 15 years. The "Dude, 410" incident didn't have anything to do with it. Most airline unions have LOAs that basically prevent FOQA data from being used to go after pilots. It's primarily a trend monitoring/safety initiative.

I ferried a 145 last winter that was light on fuel and the temp was about -15. At 4000 feet I had to pull the thrust levers back because I was at 20 degrees nose up and about to accelerate right through the barber pole.
Gotcha, thanks for the input on FOQA.

These stories just confirm how amazing it is that a huge hunk of metal can be motivated to move so quickly.
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