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Navy SEAL Not Guilty of Abusing Iraqi !!!!!!!

Old 05-13-2010, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
Maybe I should. I'm not always the sharpest knife in the drawer but why would all these witnesses be requesting immunity if nothing happened? Immunity is something that's usually granted in exchange for testimony favorable to the prosecution, no?



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The entire case was based on the testimony of a non-SEAL Master-at-arms (basically a military prison guard) who was a known malcontent and discipline problem.

My guess...the seals got into a pee-ing match with the MAA over who-knows-what, and he then blew something completely out of proportion out of spite.

I don't know how many terrorists or insurgents you've dealt with personally, but they tend to be rather non-cooperative at every opportunity. They often do require manhandling simply to control them, so legitimate prisoner handling might have blown out of proportion...a given blow struck might be perfectly acceptable or a crime, depending on context and what the bad guy was doing.

I'm convinced these guys did nothing wrong... requesting CM is like if the HS principle is going to discipline you for taking Susie's lunch money, but you demand that he call the cops and have you arrested, so you can prove your innocence in court. You had better be sure of yourself.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:18 AM
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The entire case was based on the testimony of a non-SEAL Master-at-arms (basically a military prison guard) who was a known malcontent and discipline problem.
Well, that's your opinion but not what an officer, who would be intimately familiar with his performance, said about him under oath:

One of Demartino’s former superior officers, testifying as a rebuttal witness, called Demartino “one of my top sailors—I can depend on him for anything.”
And when I read this part, I laughed out loud:

He said that he and the other two Navy SEALs, McCabe and Jonathan Keefe, did visit the detention facility where Abed was being held on the night of the alleged incident. But, he insists, there was no assault. He says they only dropped by to see if Dimartino, who was in charge of the holding facility, needed anything.
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2...nd-not-guilty/

Yeah, we just stopped by to see if you needed anything. (Read: they went to the brig to beat the crap out of Abed only to discover that the Master At Arms wasn't a "team player").

You know, when we abandon the rule of law, the terrorists actually win.

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Old 05-13-2010, 07:53 AM
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Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus (Thunb.) Matsum & Nakai, family Cucurbitaceae) can be both the fruit and the plant of a vine-like (scrambler and trailer) herb originally from southern Africa and one of the most common types of melon. This flowering plant produces a special type of fruit known by botanists as a pepo, a berry, which has a thick rind (exocarp) and fleshy center (mesocarp and endocarp); pepos are derived from an inferior ovary and are characteristic of the Cucurbitaceae. The watermelon fruit, loosely considered a type of melon (although not in the genus Cucumis), has a smooth exterior rind (green, yellow and sometimes white) and a juicy, sweet interior flesh (usually pink, but sometimes orange, yellow, red and sometimes green if not ripe).
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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
Well, that's your opinion but not what an officer, who would be intimately familiar with his performance, said about him under oath:

And when I read this part, I laughed out loud:

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Yeah, we just stopped by to see if you needed anything. (Read: they went to the brig to beat the crap out of Abed only to discover that the Master At Arms wasn't a "team player").

You know, when we abandon the rule of law, the terrorists actually do win.
So you laughed out loud when you saw an example of the rule of law in action?

And to think we have been worried about them trying to blow up buildings and kill people when all along all that want to do is get us to abandon the rule of law. Did you think of this on your way to a boycott Arizona rally?

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It was proven this guy wasn't punched in the mouth, his lip wounds were from his own teeth. He changed his story multiple times and it's a known fact that these guys are taught to pull this sh1t to try and bring discredit and provide propganda.

Personally, I would have shot him on sight at capture. That said, 99.9% of these little bastards I've seen, was through my targeting pod.

2264J you just see everything in black and white don't you? You're over your head here.
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
Watermelon (Citrullus lanatus (Thunb.) Matsum & Nakai, family Cucurbitaceae) can be both the fruit and the plant of a vine-like (scrambler and trailer) herb originally from southern Africa and one of the most common types of melon. This flowering plant produces a special type of fruit known by botanists as a pepo, a berry, which has a thick rind (exocarp) and fleshy center (mesocarp and endocarp); pepos are derived from an inferior ovary and are characteristic of the Cucurbitaceae. The watermelon fruit, loosely considered a type of melon (although not in the genus Cucumis), has a smooth exterior rind (green, yellow and sometimes white) and a juicy, sweet interior flesh (usually pink, but sometimes orange, yellow, red and sometimes green if not ripe).
Ha ha. I get it.

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Ha ha. I get it.

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The thick green rind is easily sliced open to reveal a bright red juicy fruit. Occam's razor or even a dull butter knife may be used for the task. Enjoy!
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I don't know anything about the military chain of command but I would think that if someone at the top picked up the phone and said "Are you kidding me, make this go away yesterday!!!" we NEVER would have heard about this. Am I wrong?
Yes, but that would imply that those higher up in the chain of command actually had a spine and told the terrorist to pound sand. But most are more worried about their next promotion than standing up for those under their command. Instead KNOWN terrorists have more rights than our very own soldiers. ROE is getting our people killed.....read Lone survivor for a good rant on that subject!

Doesn't matter how high up they are, the only way to make this go away is by dropping the charges. It's the soldiers right to request a court martial. Good on the Seals, I wouldn't expect anything less from these guys!
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Old 05-14-2010, 06:23 AM
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It was proven this guy wasn't punched in the mouth, his lip wounds were from his own teeth.
I don't see where that was proven. Maybe you could provide a link. Fox is reporting that an oral surgeon testified from Baghdad on the phone that he may have bitten his lip:

The defense called an oral surgeon Thursday who testified by phone from Baghdad. He said Abed might have bitten an ulcer on his lip, causing it to bleed.
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2...nd-not-guilty/

The defense asserted that al Qaeda detainees are trained to injure themselves but I haven't read anywhere that it's ever been established that Abed is al Qaeda. Fallujah was an insurgent stronghold. There's a difference.

If anyone's interested, Jeremy Scahill's book Blackwater, The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army is a excellent primer on the Fallujah debacle.
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Another sad case...soldiers can't even do their job for fear of being thrown in jail!
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