Climategate--The Final Chapter
12-01-2011, 05:24 AM
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Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Pushing nature beyond its limits. You got a model to prove that Ill bet.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
12-01-2011, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J
Of course not.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
Let me see scientist not releasing all data to support their position, emails indicating a conspiracy to hide data, telling others to discredit anyone who disagrees and all to change the way the world lives and shape it to a world that the enlighten ones want to create.
Did I miss anything?
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12-01-2011, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
At this point in time I,d be more concerned about certain countries economies collapsing since it will be much more of a game changer for all involved.
Cap & Trade is NOT the answer. It is just like the derivatives that were sold from one bank to another. Lipstick on a pig.
12-01-2011, 10:50 AM
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Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
Originally Posted by HIFLYR
Did I miss anything?
What has happened to “climategate”? What’s happened is this.
First, the UK Parliament’s Science and Technology Committee exonerated the scientist at the centre of the tempest, Professor Phil Jones, finding he has “no case to answer” and that his reputation “remains intact.”
Then Lord Oxburgh (former chairman of Shell-UK) and his panel likewise exonerated the researchers, finding their “work has been carried out with integrity, and that allegations of deliberate misrepresentation” are “not valid.”
Another enquiry, chaired by Sir Muir Russell, found the scientists’ “rigour and honesty” to be beyond doubt.
Two enquiries by his university also cleared Professor Michael Mann – who presented the first of now innumerable “hockey stick” graphs – of all allegations.
Ultimately the (conservative) UK Government concluded “the information contained in the illegally-disclosed emails does not provide any evidence to discredit … anthropogenic climate change.”
Not one, not two, but by now nine vindications.
First, the UK Parliament’s Science and Technology Committee exonerated the scientist at the centre of the tempest, Professor Phil Jones, finding he has “no case to answer” and that his reputation “remains intact.”
Then Lord Oxburgh (former chairman of Shell-UK) and his panel likewise exonerated the researchers, finding their “work has been carried out with integrity, and that allegations of deliberate misrepresentation” are “not valid.”
Another enquiry, chaired by Sir Muir Russell, found the scientists’ “rigour and honesty” to be beyond doubt.
Two enquiries by his university also cleared Professor Michael Mann – who presented the first of now innumerable “hockey stick” graphs – of all allegations.
Ultimately the (conservative) UK Government concluded “the information contained in the illegally-disclosed emails does not provide any evidence to discredit … anthropogenic climate change.”
Not one, not two, but by now nine vindications.
Now how about a cartoon?
Climategate mark 2 -- the quotes and the context - YouTube
12-01-2011, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J
Of course not.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
Think you regulated socialists would figure that out. But since this has never been about ecology and always been about power, my guess you already know it. Funny how the sociopathic communists have all become sociopathic greenies. Hitler and Stalin pretended to care about other peoples grandchildren when they made their power grabs.
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12-01-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoot Suit
You would think everyone would but it is sad to see that certain extremists do not care that just about every country is having SEVERE economic issues and the last thing they need and the last thing the airline/travel/hotel/restaurant/tourism businesses need is a phony tax scheme added to their business structure.
Cap & Trade is NOT the answer. It is just like the derivatives that were sold from one bank to another. Lipstick on a pig.
Cap & Trade is NOT the answer. It is just like the derivatives that were sold from one bank to another. Lipstick on a pig.
I agree with the lipstick on a pig analogy.
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12-02-2011, 03:35 AM
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It's all smoke and mirrors, a distraction (if you will) from what is really going on. I find it funny that a bunch of darwinians think it's necessary to save the earth. Shows the arrogance that they ACTUALLY believe that human beings have the power to destroy the earth.
We were given dominion, how about taking care of and respecting fellow mankind. Last time I checked, "thou shall not light an incadesent bulb" wasn't one of the ten.
We were given dominion, how about taking care of and respecting fellow mankind. Last time I checked, "thou shall not light an incadesent bulb" wasn't one of the ten.
12-02-2011, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
We cannot escape the irrefutable logic. This also means most of us are sociopaths, I guess we will just have to live with the shame.
12-02-2011, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J
Of course not.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
There are a lot of economists who have "plenty models and evidence" that unregulated socialism will destroy our economic habitat. Do you care about the poverty you and your ilk will inflict on your grandchildren and everyone else's. Or are you a sociopath?
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12-02-2011, 06:11 AM
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I must say that article from "The Nation" was one of the most disjointed works of demented blather I have ever laid eyes on, the attribution of the failure of the climate change proponents to the existence of cranky old white males was indeed a masterstroke.
Not a lick of science in the whole disaster, just a rant on how to use a manufactured crisis to "put wind in the sails"(a lot of wind, really) of the "progressive" effort to kill capitalism.
Ok, this explains it:The Nation is the oldest continuously published weekly magazine in the United States. The periodical, devoted to politics and culture, is self-described as "the flagship of the left." Founded on July 6, 1865, It is published by The Nation Company, L.P., at 33 Irving Place, New York City.[3]
The Nation has lost money in all but three or four years of operation...
You like the long shots kiddo.
Not a lick of science in the whole disaster, just a rant on how to use a manufactured crisis to "put wind in the sails"(a lot of wind, really) of the "progressive" effort to kill capitalism.
Ok, this explains it:The Nation is the oldest continuously published weekly magazine in the United States. The periodical, devoted to politics and culture, is self-described as "the flagship of the left." Founded on July 6, 1865, It is published by The Nation Company, L.P., at 33 Irving Place, New York City.[3]
The Nation has lost money in all but three or four years of operation...
You like the long shots kiddo.
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