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Old 07-24-2012, 06:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Dynon Pocket Panel D-1

Dynon Avionics came out with a new hand held AHRS system. I gather that you are supposed to cover the attitude gyro with it however they don't actually say that.

It is an easy way to make an old Cessna 150 into a modern glass flight deck in just a few minutes. Very cool. I would love to rip out all the old gyro instruments, pipes and vacuum pump and go glass.

Who knows in a few years we might have a low cost HUD that I can put in my Cessna 150 too.

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Old 07-26-2012, 03:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You shouldn't waste money on avionics and airplanes in general. Because in your own words to do so is a "sickness".
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You shouldn't waste money on avionics and airplanes in general. Because in your own words to do so is a "sickness".
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You misunderstand. It is the same as with anything people do that has addictive tendencies.

From Wilki:

Addiction is the continued use of a mood altering substance, or behavior, despite adverse dependency consequences.

Some drive their personal or financial lives into ruin over aviation. Others cant push back until it kills them. Aviation is fine so long as it does not lead one into self destructive behaviors.

Under the current conditions if someone really must do it they can afford to spend a lot on hobby aviation and still be ahead of trying to work it as a career.

However you are correct in that if aviation can be avoided at all that is the best solution. Imagine what kind of mountain bike a guy could buy with the $1500 it costs to buy one a Dynon Pocket Panel D-1 or the house that could be bought with the cost of a commercial instrument CFI, IA, MEL from a big name university program?

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Old 07-26-2012, 04:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Those of you who are considering flight training; consider what your life would be like in 20 years if you used the funds for training to buy a house instead?

A paid off house would be quite an advantage in life. The 120K piece of plastic in your wallet not so much.

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Old 07-26-2012, 06:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Those of you who are considering flight training; consider what your life would be like in 20 years if you used the funds for training to buy a house instead?

A paid off house would be quite an advantage in life. The 120K piece of plastic in your wallet not so much.

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You never responded to my quote in another thread about it costing me about the same to get my degree and flight training as it did my brother to just get his undergrad to become an engineer. We make about the same now and I am younger than he is. He works at least twice as much as I do, and I'm only on the road once or twice a month. We both have great health insurance and a 401k, but I also have a pension on top of that. So please tell me again why my path is so wrong and stupid and why my brother or your career is so much better and more responsible?
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You never responded to my quote in another thread about it costing me about the same to get my degree and flight training as it did my brother to just get his undergrad to become an engineer. We make about the same now and I am younger than he is. He works at least twice as much as I do, and I'm only on the road once or twice a month. We both have great health insurance and a 401k, but I also have a pension on top of that. So please tell me again why my path is so wrong and stupid and why my brother or your career is so much better and more responsible?
Good for you. I am glad that things are working out for you. There are variables to consider of course and no one can say what the future will bring however in general it is safe to say that conditions for pilots are on the decline.

Things might be comparable right now between you and your brother but whose to say what tomorrow will bring. You could have a medical issue and become unable to work. Your brother might get a different job that pays more. You may have to move a bunch or have to pay a lot to buy type ratings to remain employable.

If your training costs are considerable to your brothers I am forced to then guess that you do not have a college degree and choose to spend your educational dollars on flight training instead. You are at a competitive disadvantage because of that as well.

In summary things are going well for you right now and that is great. I would be making plans for what happens next if I were you. Aviation is a fickle business. Odds are that the balance between your brother and you will change.

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have been a flight instructor for over 20 years now. As such I have seen the same story of addiction and destruction play out over and over again.

There are two younger guys at my airport who are being dragged down by their addiction to flying. The first can't stop dumping thousands upon thousands into his plane. I have heard him promise his wife that they will buy a house for years now but then he decides that he needs to buy a bigger engine or new radio. Everyone can tell that he just can not stop. His wife is at her limit and I am sure will draw up divorce papers soon. They have no other assets to split so I am sure that the plane will be sold and he will be out a wife, his plane and financial resources.

The other has all of the above going on but he also is an adrenaline junkie. He keeps pushing the limits and eventually will cross the line and either be killed, maimed or violated by the FAA. In any case aviation is able to evoke deep passions in people that cause them to make self destructive decisions.

The fiery end is usually the same. Either the afflicted are killed outright or completely ruined and embarrassed that they leave town and never fly again. Might as well be smoking crack.

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A cool thing about the Dynon Pocket Panel D-1 is that if one has a glass addiction you can deck out a Cessna 150 into a glass animal for less that the cost of a new NavCom.

I personally would like to see a certified version that I could replace my old vacuum system with for less cost and shed 35 pounds as well.

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Work on the reading comprehension. I said I got a degree and all my flight training, through MEI for about the same price my brother got his degree. I never have and never will pay for a type rating, that's the companies job and if they won't do it then I'm not interested in working for them.

My brother could get a better paying job, but so could I. My company could go bankrupt and put me on the street but the same thing could happen to my brother. You make it seem as if all pilot jobs are at risk of going bye bye any minute now, and that being an engineer or a property manager have no risk of becoming unemployed. Millions of people have lost their jobs in the past few years and believe it or not they weren't all in aviation.

Life is risky no matter what you do, but you can't even fathom that someone got a degree and learned how to fly at a reasonable price and is now successful. I get it that not everyone makes it but you can't get off your soapbox that it is impossible for someone to actually have a good career flying airplanes.
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I have been a flight instructor for over 20 years now. As such I have seen the same story of addiction and destruction play out over and over again.

There are two younger guys at my airport who are being dragged down by their addiction to flying. The first can't stop dumping thousands upon thousands into his plane. I have heard him promise his wife that they will buy a house for years now but then he decides that he needs to buy a bigger engine or new radio. Everyone can tell that he just can not stop. His wife is at her limit and I am sure will draw up divorce papers soon. They have no other assets to split so I am sure that the plane will be sold and he will be out a wife, his plane and financial resources.

The other has all of the above going on but he also is an adrenaline junkie. He keeps pushing the limits and eventually will cross the line and either be killed, maimed or violated by the FAA. In any case aviation is able to evoke deep passions in people that cause them to make self destructive decisions.

The fiery end is usually the same. Either the afflicted are killed outright or completely ruined and embarrassed that they leave town and never fly again. Might as well be smoking crack.

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