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Old 08-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This was the last photo sent back to Earth:


Have you ever seen the internet joke going around that is a Martian Press release letting all Martians know that the strange object in the sky was a Martian Weather Balloon and no one should be concerned?

Very funny!

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Old 08-06-2012, 07:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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NASA’s adorkable ‘Mohawk Guy’
See?

Government programs work just fine if you staff them
with competent people and fund them appropriately.

Mohawk Guy's generation has been told since birth
that government doesn't work by corporatist politicians
who get themselves elected claiming government is the
problem then go to Washington and prove it - like a self
fulfilling prophecy.

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Old 08-07-2012, 02:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Government programs work just fine if you staff them
with competent people and fund them appropriately.

Mohawk Guy's generation has been told since birth
that government doesn't work by corporatist politicians
who get themselves elected claiming government is the
problem then go to Washington and prove it - like a self
fulfilling prophecy.

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Private companies provided the technology, taxpayers funded the effort. Government brokered the deal, none of this happens without funding from a robust economy or borrowing well beyond your means.

Understand that government has no money except that which it confiscates. Many mistake politics for real economic outcomes, nothing could be further from the truth.

Government did not build this effort, taxpayers did, thank one today. In fact, given the combined input of about half of the US people and government, we could not fund a bottle rocket.
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Government did not build this effort...
Are you high right now?

Private industry wouldn't have done this on their own.
The risk to reward ratio by itself is a non-starter.
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Are you high right now?

Private industry wouldn't have done this on their own.
The risk to reward ratio by itself is a non-starter.
You might want to take a few courses in economics, private industry and taxpayers funded every cent of this project.

You have mistaken the broker for the owners of the capital.

If you add the economic input of half of all americans and the total economic input of government, you could not fund the launch of a bottle rocket-where, exactly, do you think the funding comes from?

What is any project worth without funding?

For every brilliant technical success by NASA, you can see dozens of abject failures by the same broker.
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Government programs work just fine if you staff them
with competent people and fund them appropriately.

Mohawk Guy's generation has been told since birth
that government doesn't work by corporatist politicians
who get themselves elected claiming government is the
problem then go to Washington and prove it - like a self
fulfilling prophecy.

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I see since the government managed to oversee the successfull landing of a spacecraft on Mars one must be crazy to not want the government to keep subsidizing medicine and higher education just because the cost of both continue to expand at twice the rate of inflation as the quality of both deteriorates. It is a fallacy to think that because government manges to accomplish something it is the best entity to accomplish everything.
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Private companies provided the technology, taxpayers funded the effort. Government brokered the deal, none of this happens without funding from a robust economy or borrowing well beyond your means.

Understand that government has no money except that which it confiscates. Many mistake politics for real economic outcomes, nothing could be further from the truth.

Government did not build this effort, taxpayers did, thank one today. In fact, given the combined input of about half of the US people and government, we could not fund a bottle rocket.
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Want to see innovation...Check out

www.palantirtechnologies.com

No federal government agency could have done this...But, like a good broker of the tax payers money In-Q-Tel provided the funds to change the IC for the better...At least in this case...
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You might want to take a few courses in economics,
private industry and taxpayers funded every cent of
this project.
Which private industry is funding Mars exploration?

Or is the basis of your remark about economics courses
that corporations pay taxes too and thereby are responsible
for some of the funding? Is that what you're trying to say?

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Old 08-08-2012, 08:37 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Which private industry is funding Mars exploration?

Or is the basis of your remark about economics courses
that corporations pay taxes too and thereby are responsible
for some of the funding?
OK, now tell us where the funding comes from, while you are at it you can tell us why only a few countries can afford any space program. Can you tell us which companies actually built the vehicles used in our space program, here is a clue-they were neither built nor conceived in government workshops.

The economy funds the government, not the other way around.
The economy fuels all innovation, it does not happen by decree.

Government funds nothing, hard working citizens pay for everything.
You seem to have trouble with the true origins of wealth, but that is not uncommon today. Ignorance can be fixed.
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