Atlas Air Hiring
06-26-2016, 02:35 PM
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 532
Originally Posted by Rubicon
I've been here (the Holiday Inn) for a solid two months now. I now, unconsciously, call it "home". Even my wife (who is at our real home), says to me, "When do you get home...?"
And YES, traffic here makes LA look like a Sunday drive through the country-side. The Walmart down the street must be the busiest Walmart in the world! I went there at 11:30pm, and I still waited 20 minutes to checkout.
The accommodations are quite a good deal. Be sure to submit your Hotel Points card so that you get the days on your account.
At the Holiday Inn: all rooms include a mini-fridge (for beer, of course), free laundry at the Staybridge (if you get a room in the Holiday Inn, ask the front desk at the Staybridge for a key card - tell them that you are with Atlas), free internet, and a Crew Room (2nd floor next to the elevator) which has 767 & 747 paper tigers and a huge balcony, free hot breakfast (you will get so sick of scrambled eggs and bacon!) every morning, a basketball court, swimming pool, party gazebo, gas grill, and happy hour / free dinner every Mon-Wed 1730-1930 at the Staybridge.
The StayBridge includes a kitchenette (with full size fridge), and mini-living room.
The two hotels are next to each other and share the swimming pool, gazebo, basketball court.
The Latin American food down here is amazing and very decently priced. Don't be shocked to see a liquor store in many of the cafe's. Plenty of food near the hotel and across from the training center.
If you visit the Boeing Store (down the street from the Training Center), leave your credit card at the hotel. So much stuff you'll want to buy, but it is expensive!
P.S. this is the first time I have been back to the forum since I started training in April. Training is extremely fast paced and no time to do anything else. Atlas has ditched the fire hose and deep-sixed us to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. A lot of info to learn!!
And YES, traffic here makes LA look like a Sunday drive through the country-side. The Walmart down the street must be the busiest Walmart in the world! I went there at 11:30pm, and I still waited 20 minutes to checkout.
The accommodations are quite a good deal. Be sure to submit your Hotel Points card so that you get the days on your account.
At the Holiday Inn: all rooms include a mini-fridge (for beer, of course), free laundry at the Staybridge (if you get a room in the Holiday Inn, ask the front desk at the Staybridge for a key card - tell them that you are with Atlas), free internet, and a Crew Room (2nd floor next to the elevator) which has 767 & 747 paper tigers and a huge balcony, free hot breakfast (you will get so sick of scrambled eggs and bacon!) every morning, a basketball court, swimming pool, party gazebo, gas grill, and happy hour / free dinner every Mon-Wed 1730-1930 at the Staybridge.
The StayBridge includes a kitchenette (with full size fridge), and mini-living room.
The two hotels are next to each other and share the swimming pool, gazebo, basketball court.
The Latin American food down here is amazing and very decently priced. Don't be shocked to see a liquor store in many of the cafe's. Plenty of food near the hotel and across from the training center.
If you visit the Boeing Store (down the street from the Training Center), leave your credit card at the hotel. So much stuff you'll want to buy, but it is expensive!
P.S. this is the first time I have been back to the forum since I started training in April. Training is extremely fast paced and no time to do anything else. Atlas has ditched the fire hose and deep-sixed us to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. A lot of info to learn!!
Must be a lot different now because when I went through training there was plenty of time do all kinds of activities. Things like drinking, drinking and golfing, going to the beach and drinking, driving to the keys for drinks, trying not to die while driving around New Havana, and drinking.
06-27-2016, 02:24 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 159
Wow. Yikes.
Dear Fellow Atlas Crew Members,
The last few weeks have been busy to say the least, so let me update you on some of the recent events.
On Thursday and Friday of last week we had our first meeting with the National Mediation Board (NMB) in Detroit, Michigan. These were two days of meetings designed for the mediator to get an understanding of the dispute between the union and management. Joining with me in attendance for the union were Local 1224 President Captain Daniel Wells, Southern ExCo Chairman Captain Bryan Holmberg, Southern ExCo Member FO Jon Casey and Local 1224 Chief Counsel Ed Gleason. Attending for the company were Atlas President John Dietrich, Senior Vice President Jeff Carlson, Scott Lindsay, Bob Siegel (lawyer), Doug Hall (lawyer), Jennifer Chernichaw (lawyer) and Jerry Glass (company negotiator).
On Thursday at noon we met jointly for few minutes as the mediator provided rules on conduct. To familiarize himself with the history of the companies and the facts behind the dispute, the mediator then convened with the parties individually for two hours, beginning first with the union and then with the company.
The same type of informational meetings happened on Friday as we continued to brief the mediator and answer questions that he posed. At the end of the day the mediator indicated he would report his findings to the NMB and that they would decide how to proceed. As of this writing I have no idea how long it will take for actual Section 6 mediated negotiations to begin, but it looks like months before we will have a chance to get this process back on track.
The fact that the company brought what amounts to a small law firm as a “security blanket” to these fact finding meetings does not bode well for a quick resolution or a much deserved CBA any time in the near future. The company’s constant “lawyering up” seems to point to a long and involved fight—a fight that the company is using to keep paying us well below what we deserve. They are again reneging on past promises made. As you well know, when the last CBA was signed they agreed to bargain in good faith for 270 days before the amendable date as a part of the five-year duration deal of our current CBA—another promise broken. It would be nice to work for an ethical company that lives up to its word, rather than one that constantly deceives its employees and displays a constant pattern of reneging on its commitments. Because of the company’s insistence on an unjust amalgamation and its legal threats, it now looks very likely that it will be many years before a new CBA comes to Atlas.
The company appears to be gearing up for their next attack by legally attempting to force another unjust CBA upon all of us through a court-imposed amalgamation. Remember this when you are asked for a favor or to go the extra mile.
I do have good news from our local and the pilots of Allegiant Air. Last Wednesday the Allegiant pilots reached a tentative agreement in principle for their first CBA. I don’t have many details yet, but it looks like a captain at Allegiant will now make about the same hourly pay rate as a B-747 check airman at Atlas. Indeed, after more than 20 years of operation management has successfully kept its thumb on us and managed to pay a rate well below what the smallest transport category pilots in the industry make. If you look at all the worst paid pilots in the industry they all have one thing in common, a majority of them fly for DHL!
Many of you keep calling me hoping that there is a reason to stay at Atlas. Unfortunately, I cannot be optimistic that any of this will be resolved soon. The company can tie us up in court indefinitely with the hope of imposing another low pay and substandard quality of life CBA upon us. With the courts and the federal system on their side, the future is very uncertain here at Atlas. If you gamble and stay at Atlas you may pay dearly both financially and in your quality of life. While the union is ready for a long fight to defend your rights, this will take time. For now, we will remain near the bottom of the barrel in pay, work rules, and treatment in the industry. There are very few, if any, companies left that treat their employees worse or pay them less for the work they do.
I ask you again to stick to the CBA and enforce it strictly. Remember, your union will stand behind you.
At this point, I should have a better news for you, but that would involve working for a company that cares about you and your family.
I will keep you updated as events transpire, however, I do not expect any CBA negotiations in the near future.
Fraternally,
BK
Atlas ExCo Chairman
APA Teamsters Local 1224
Dear Fellow Atlas Crew Members,
The last few weeks have been busy to say the least, so let me update you on some of the recent events.
On Thursday and Friday of last week we had our first meeting with the National Mediation Board (NMB) in Detroit, Michigan. These were two days of meetings designed for the mediator to get an understanding of the dispute between the union and management. Joining with me in attendance for the union were Local 1224 President Captain Daniel Wells, Southern ExCo Chairman Captain Bryan Holmberg, Southern ExCo Member FO Jon Casey and Local 1224 Chief Counsel Ed Gleason. Attending for the company were Atlas President John Dietrich, Senior Vice President Jeff Carlson, Scott Lindsay, Bob Siegel (lawyer), Doug Hall (lawyer), Jennifer Chernichaw (lawyer) and Jerry Glass (company negotiator).
On Thursday at noon we met jointly for few minutes as the mediator provided rules on conduct. To familiarize himself with the history of the companies and the facts behind the dispute, the mediator then convened with the parties individually for two hours, beginning first with the union and then with the company.
The same type of informational meetings happened on Friday as we continued to brief the mediator and answer questions that he posed. At the end of the day the mediator indicated he would report his findings to the NMB and that they would decide how to proceed. As of this writing I have no idea how long it will take for actual Section 6 mediated negotiations to begin, but it looks like months before we will have a chance to get this process back on track.
The fact that the company brought what amounts to a small law firm as a “security blanket” to these fact finding meetings does not bode well for a quick resolution or a much deserved CBA any time in the near future. The company’s constant “lawyering up” seems to point to a long and involved fight—a fight that the company is using to keep paying us well below what we deserve. They are again reneging on past promises made. As you well know, when the last CBA was signed they agreed to bargain in good faith for 270 days before the amendable date as a part of the five-year duration deal of our current CBA—another promise broken. It would be nice to work for an ethical company that lives up to its word, rather than one that constantly deceives its employees and displays a constant pattern of reneging on its commitments. Because of the company’s insistence on an unjust amalgamation and its legal threats, it now looks very likely that it will be many years before a new CBA comes to Atlas.
The company appears to be gearing up for their next attack by legally attempting to force another unjust CBA upon all of us through a court-imposed amalgamation. Remember this when you are asked for a favor or to go the extra mile.
I do have good news from our local and the pilots of Allegiant Air. Last Wednesday the Allegiant pilots reached a tentative agreement in principle for their first CBA. I don’t have many details yet, but it looks like a captain at Allegiant will now make about the same hourly pay rate as a B-747 check airman at Atlas. Indeed, after more than 20 years of operation management has successfully kept its thumb on us and managed to pay a rate well below what the smallest transport category pilots in the industry make. If you look at all the worst paid pilots in the industry they all have one thing in common, a majority of them fly for DHL!
Many of you keep calling me hoping that there is a reason to stay at Atlas. Unfortunately, I cannot be optimistic that any of this will be resolved soon. The company can tie us up in court indefinitely with the hope of imposing another low pay and substandard quality of life CBA upon us. With the courts and the federal system on their side, the future is very uncertain here at Atlas. If you gamble and stay at Atlas you may pay dearly both financially and in your quality of life. While the union is ready for a long fight to defend your rights, this will take time. For now, we will remain near the bottom of the barrel in pay, work rules, and treatment in the industry. There are very few, if any, companies left that treat their employees worse or pay them less for the work they do.
I ask you again to stick to the CBA and enforce it strictly. Remember, your union will stand behind you.
At this point, I should have a better news for you, but that would involve working for a company that cares about you and your family.
I will keep you updated as events transpire, however, I do not expect any CBA negotiations in the near future.
Fraternally,
BK
Atlas ExCo Chairman
APA Teamsters Local 1224
06-28-2016, 03:05 PM
Line holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: N/A
Posts: 316
Same road I went down at Republic. Strap yourselves in for a 5-8 year battle or try your hardest to move on. Job fairs etc. Sucks but this is how corporate greed and those pilots willing to work for pennies on the dollar has effed this industry.
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