Hawaiian Airlines Hiring
12-08-2014, 01:56 PM
#1241
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From a local on the big island to give you guys some perspective about how important it is to have internal recs. "
I know captains at empire who are also ramp agents at Hawaiian with internal references that are having a hard time getting in"
12-08-2014, 07:33 PM
#1242
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Originally Posted by Facebitten
From a local on the big island to give you guys some perspective about how important it is to have internal recs. "
I know captains at empire who are also ramp agents at Hawaiian with internal references that are having a hard time getting in"
12-23-2014, 07:41 PM
#1244
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Can anyone let me know?
Originally Posted by Shifty
Class of 6 Jan 5th!
12-24-2014, 01:10 PM
#1245
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Whats the latest and greatest with Hawaiian? Nice to hear about hiring, I suppose the real hiring will start when the 321s come online. End of 2016 maybe? Also saw some figures on Hawaiians widebody pay, lower in comparison to other legacy peers, any HAL guys know if the priority is to bring that up in the next round. Lastly with a young pilot group and all the forcasted on the books aircraft purchases would a newhire expect to be right seat indefinitely? Any ideas or conjecture welcome, thanks.
12-24-2014, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by getrichflytryin
Whats the latest and greatest with Hawaiian? Nice to hear about hiring, I suppose the real hiring will start when the 321s come online. End of 2016 maybe? Also saw some figures on Hawaiians widebody pay, lower in comparison to other legacy peers, any HAL guys know if the priority is to bring that up in the next round. Lastly with a young pilot group and all the forcasted on the books aircraft purchases would a newhire expect to be right seat indefinitely? Any ideas or conjecture welcome, thanks.
Latest is that I flew 94 hours last month on Reserve on the 330... Hiring 6 will hardly make a dent in how short we are.
Greatest is we've got a new MEC that is DEAD SET on getting us an industry leading contract as a legcy. A lot more than pay is broken. Trip rigs, days off, reserve, vacation, sick, training pay, bla bla bla. All behind and all concessionary era language.
And for once since I've been here I've taked to enough guys that I have faith this pilot group will hold the line and continue to raise the bar. Guys have had enough and are fired up.
12-24-2014, 01:20 PM
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Oh and to your point about age and seniority. I've never been anywhere besides a commuter back in the 90s with so many 30somthing year old captains and 50'some year old captains with 30 years etc.
If hired here in the next few years plan to be an FO for years. If you're in your 40's or 50's plan to be a terminal FO
If hired here in the next few years plan to be an FO for years. If you're in your 40's or 50's plan to be a terminal FO
12-27-2014, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by curtismarker
Sounds like Hawaiian is similar to Virgin America. Good luck with getting pay and work rules improved. Hoping to get over there when the window opens again. [/U]
Virgin is a start up that has to a) get a union, and b) build a history of contracts.
Hawaiian is the oldest airline in the US (11th in the world), one which at one time had industry leading DC9 rates, and one which has had to file BK 3 times over the 8+ decades it's been in business (2 of which were recently) and set our pattern bargaining back quite a bit.. we simply have to climb BACK OUT of our hole and join our peers at the other Legacies and getting back what WE GAVE UP.
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