Pilots helping pilots
View over 100 airline profilesAdd to Google



Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Hobbies
Register FAQ Advertising Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Hobbies Off-day pursuits

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-20-2009, 01:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
KJSWA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 42
Default Formula 1

Anyone follow F1, or is everybody a NASCAR fan. Looking forward to the '09 season with all the rule changes, and there emphasis on overtaking.
KJSWA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
Min Schedule, No OT
 
Pilotpip's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: 90 minutes from the airport.
Posts: 2,847
Default

If it has four wheels and goes fast (including NASCAR), I'll watch it. Last season was one of the better ones in recent memory regarding F1. Just wish they'd come back to Indy for a USGP.

What are some of the big rule changes?
Pilotpip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 04:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Zach's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: If idiots could fly, this place would be an airport!
Posts: 183
Default

Back to slicks, the rear wing is much more narrow, the front wing is a lot wider and lower to the ground, and there is none of the stupid aero stuff sticking up all over the car. The car is a lot cleaner looking.
Zach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 04:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
KJSWA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 42
Default

The wings can also be adjusted by the driver in car. But limiting the amount of aerodymanic development (no more horns) forces constuctors into developing other aspects of the car like KERS, the aerodymanic changes never filter down into road cars but with the new green movement the development of KERS could led to big things in production cars. F1 is R&D for road cars. There's also talk of a standard engine and changing the points system to a medals system. Theres talk of a USGP but not for at least another couple years.
KJSWA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2009, 06:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Min Schedule, No OT
 
Pilotpip's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: 90 minutes from the airport.
Posts: 2,847
Default

Oh for the love of God, don't go standard engine.

You people complain about NASCAR, what do you think they have?
Pilotpip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 07:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
KJSWA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 42
Default

Na, standard engine might be good, theres always the same two teams at the front of the grid, and the same 3 or 4 following. It seems like NASCAR has standard everything, the aerodynamics in formula 1 make a huge difference, plus the huge R&D budgets will always keep it very competitive. Comparing F1 to NASCAR is like comparing the space shuttle to a super cub. What exactly dose NASCAR stand for anyway?
KJSWA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 07:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
Min Schedule, No OT
 
Pilotpip's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: 90 minutes from the airport.
Posts: 2,847
Default

There's actually a ton of technology in nascar (Which stands for National Association of Stock Car Racing). The aerodynamics were really getting to be a strong point and this was one of the reasons for the push to the common template. The small teams couldn't afford the wind tunnel and R&D time.

Oddly enough, the common template and restrictions have done nothing to help the smaller teams there. You still have what basically amounts to two or three teams at the top every year.
Pilotpip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2009, 10:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
KJSWA's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 42
Default

I guess, but every car looks the same but ford taurus decal headlights, or chevy impala, but the shape looks standard. (I dont pay a lot of attention to NASCAR so I could be way wrong but hey, you dont ask, you wont learn)
KJSWA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2009, 09:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
Min Schedule, No OT
 
Pilotpip's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: 90 minutes from the airport.
Posts: 2,847
Default

That's because they went to a common template for the bodies about two years ago. It's freaking hideous. The low dollar teams were crying that they couldn't compete because they didn't have the money to develop cars for the superspeedways, short tracks, 1 1/2 mile ovals and road courses. Big dollar teams spent time in the windtunnel tweaking every inch of the car to get the most downforce and least drag within the rules. The result was a common car regardless of badge and a lot of very restrictive rules regarding shock travel and other issues regarding performance. Very similiar to what F1 has done. First it was smaller engines, then they got rid of traction control, now they're talking about common engine templates. NASCAR is already developing a common engine to go with the common body.

Amazingly, in both sports these moves have done little to narrow the gap. You still have two or three front running teams (Roush, Hendrick and Gibbs in NASCAR, Renault, Mclaren and Ferrarri in F1) and the lower dollar teams still crying about the performance gap.
Pilotpip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
ysslah's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: AVGAS trash
Posts: 103
Default

That would be because no matter what part of the car FIA or NASCAR force the teams to share, the rich teams will find some way to spend their big dollars to be higher up on the list at the end of the day.
ysslah is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Formula For Climb Gradient Cheyenne Driver Fractional 22 05-06-2009 08:07 PM
Formula for determining cloud bases packageflyer Technical 13 11-11-2008 07:21 PM
Any Formula 1 fans in here? DYNASTY HVY Hangar Talk 22 11-01-2008 05:18 AM
Furloughs! ChillBillPilot Major 32 10-09-2008 05:35 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:40 PM.


Copyright ©2000 - 2009 Internet Brands, Inc.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7