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"I am still waiting to find out how many applications UPS has on file"
Sky, just make something up in lieu of. That's much more your style....
But that said, the SWA lady said 2500 of the 40,000 are serious. A UPS guy said that 400 plus have 5 of 5 points.
"There's only so many sacrifices you can make before you become the wierd guy in his 50's whose never home, and doesn't have a family"
Well, then at some point, you hit the curve, and you left. No problem with that and more power to ya. You keep saying you want back in the biz and are looking for a way. It's your call. To each his own. I just think bashing the career is a bit over the top for one looking for a way back into it. Don't you think???
Can you boys get a room?!
Sky- I respect your freedom of speech and i admire and agree with some of the things you have posted, but now it's just turning into flamebait.
de727ups- There is a whole board to mod. Give this thread a break man. You have been chasing him all over the board for awhile now.
Let's just give it a rest already.
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"No sir, eventhough you pay me $61,000 a yr, I will not ejection seat your wife."
Let's not forget that Skyhigh left a stable regional for a number of startups hoping for the quick upgrade in the heavy iorn. He likes to leave that part out.
I do not leave that out. Everyone must make decisions for themselves. My goal was to reach Alaska Airlines. At the time it was a very successful strategy. And it almost worked for me too. 9-11 was the curve ball that changed everything. Had I stayed at Horizon Air I would have been stuck there and by the time my chance came up, just like most of my friends who stuck it out I would have been to old to care anymore.
Besides that. National Airlines was a big deal at the time. It could have been my big break.
Everyone likes to play armchair quarterback. Just wait till it is your turn, or maybe you will stick it out in fear of taking a chance till it is too late.
Skyhigh
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Pilots are paid for what they will do, not for what they can do.
"Let's not forget that Skyhigh left a stable regional for a startup hoping for the quick upgrade in the heavy iorn. He likes to leave that part out."
He'd be making six figures working half the month. Problem is, he'd be away from his Central Washingtion hamlet the other half of the time. And that's not worthy. So, thanks for playing, but being a pilot sucks....
The job isn't for everyone. To each his own. I'm glad Sky found something better.
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"Even when I was flying for a living you and I were not peers. Because I saw aviation as a path to a better life and to you it is your whole life"
Like I've always said, dude, to each his own...
I agree however most people would not give as much to any career as you have to aviation. It is a successful approach but unbalanced. Nothing should demand as much as you have given.
I believe that I am here to represent the average persons wants, needs and expectations. What you stand for I have no description, understanding or explanation of.
Skyhigh
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"de727ups- There is a whole board to mod. Give this thread a break man."
It's really no problem. If you see the history, I'm obviously not responding to Skyhigh as a mod. When was the last time you saw me moderate a post he's been involved with?
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There is a price to be paid and benefits gained for every life.
Agree - and some are willing to pay that price for their own version of fullfillment. Because it doesn't happen to be yours doesn't mean that it isn't right for some. Of course this is old hat isn't it Sky. How many times have we already said these exact same things to one antoher?
I saw a sea of white shirted zombies who were willing to sell their birthdays to the company for a song. I just cant imagine doing that for the rest of my life.
Now you lost me on this - but then it is late and I'm tired from a long day. Btw - this pilot just enjoyed the heck out of himself this evening sitting in the backseat and watching a guy with 3 hours in the airplane shoot a arcing HI-TACAN approach to a circle to landing at an unfamiliar field, then back to home plate for a simulated single engine PAR, followed by a standby instrument PAR to a couple of laps around the FCLP pattern and I LOVED IT! I guess to most hard core fighter pilots that would be considered boring but I handled it well. I think I'll be OK Sky.
Wait till it is your turn to sit for hours motionless and with arms folded waiting for the next of thousands of identical ILS approaches. Ex-fighter guys have been known to have a difficult time adjusting to the mundane typing pool that is airline flying.
WOW! You're really speaking outside of my realm tonight Sky. Are you saying that I am going to get bored flying beautiful airplanes into new and interesting places? Lucky for me then that I love flying and not what I fly. That has always been the case with me. I don't know about you - but I've already come to peace with the fact that when I fly my last military flight that I am ready to hang up those stirrups and start a whole new career as a professional pilot.
SWA and UPS are tough to get into, no doubt. However, a resume isn't the only factor. I've flown with many guys who have impressive resumes who were rejected from SWA the first time. However, most (not all) of these guys were the types who obviously got into aviation for money and women and have long since been disappointed. A good interviewer can tell whether a person trully loves aviation or is just doing it as a job to pay the bills. In a sea (as it is) of "qualified" applicants, who do you think will get the job?
I've flown with the gruffs who barely run the checklists, recite the responses from memory with me having to actually make sure it is done, A/P is engaged at 500 feet, pax announcements are short, etc. Then I've flown with the guys who still put effort and professionalism into their jobs.
Personality and attitude are most of the battle.
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