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Old 11-03-2005, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone heard of these guys?

Pilots Defending the Profession

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Old 11-03-2005, 12:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I used to call them Pilots Destroying the Profession; however, I think their time has finally come.
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Old 11-06-2005, 11:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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More like "Punks Doing Pot"; these radical, militants are way off the deep end. Mostly "Full Pay to the Last Day" malcontents from AA's LGA & MIA bases, which coincidentally are the junior bases where most 6-yr Captains are. (You know, the ones who think the world and this industry OWE them a living!)

Reading their drivel is like reading a Michael Moore book or trying to reason with your dog. No wait...sometimes you actually can reason with your dog.

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Old 11-07-2005, 06:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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More like "Punks Doing Pot"; these radical, militant idiots are way off the deep end. Mostly "Full Pay to the Last Day" morons from AA's LGA & MIA bases, which coinsidentally are the junior bases where most 6-yr Captains are. (You know, the ones who think the world and this industry OWE them a living!)

Reading their drivel is like reading a Michael Moore book or trying to reason with your dog.
No SH*T, I didn't think anybody had six year Capts anymore. I though that was just a Airline Myth put out by HR.

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Old 11-07-2005, 05:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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More like "Punks Doing Pot"; these radical, militant idiots are way off the deep end. Mostly "Full Pay to the Last Day" morons from AA's LGA & MIA bases, which coinsidentally are the junior bases where most 6-yr Captains are. (You know, the ones who think the world and this industry OWE them a living!)

Reading their drivel is like reading a Michael Moore book or trying to reason with your dog.
The most Jr. Captain in LGA for AA is a 2/90 hire, almost 16 years (MD-80). The most Jr. Captain in MIA is a 7/89 hire, over 16 years (737). Just the FACTS
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok, Chuck...when did those guys actually MAKE Captain? I'm betting the late 90's, and almost noone lost thier seat or status after AA and APA slaughtered the TWA employees. Again, just the 'facts'.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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First off boys and girls PDP is a great outlet to hear the "other side of the story"(we know there are 2 sides). These people are just stating facts, but it's hard for lots of people at AA and APA to comprehend this.
Secondly,TWA employees were not "slaughtered" by APA or AMR. I think it's fortunate that some still have a job because if AMR didn't buy them they would all be out on the street!!!
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hearing the other side of the arguement only helps when the other side has a valid point. Thus far, anything the PDP has put out is pure rubbish. These guys have their head way too deep in the sand to figure anything out, unfortunately, their type of thinking is quiet common at AA. However, the current APA leadership doesn't really give me a warm and fuzzy either since it seems our leader is more interested in running the company instead of worrying about the pilot group.
As for the assumption that TWA would be out of business, it's a pure assumption and I guess we will never know. Now if one makes the assumption that TWA would have been out of business, then one would also have to make the statement that the 2891 furloughs would have all come from the ranks of AA, so the junior folks should really be thankful that AA did buy TWA, as they were shielded from loss of employment.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hearing the other side of the arguement only helps when the other side has a valid point. Thus far, anything the PDP has put out is pure rubbish.
XTWAPILOT,

I'll play. You start by listing one or more items PDP has put out that's "pure rubbish", then I'll respond and the readers of this forum can decide whether or not it's "rubbish".
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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XTWAPILOT,

I'll play. You start by listing one or more items PDP has put out that's "pure rubbish", then I'll respond and the readers of this forum can decide whether or not it's "rubbish".
Okay, how about that $935 million PDP claimed pilots gave up in the first year of the contract? The only place they could have gotten that number is from the 7th rock from the sun. There is enough public info out there to do the math, and you ain't even close.

What else can you expect from a bunch of prissy cowards who hide behind a website with some high soundin name like "Defending the Profesion"
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