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Old 08-28-2007, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone ever been walked out after turning in a letter or resignation?

My buddy's in the real world are always walked out after turning in their 2 weeks notice. (no compete clauses) I've never heard of it happening at the regional to major but what if you are leaving a major to go to another major? Can you give them a "I'm leaving but don't know exactly when" type notice. My buddy doesn't want to be out of work for a few weeks but wants to leave on a good note and give at least 2 weeks notice.

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Old 08-28-2007, 11:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, I don't know.

In the last 3 years at AA, at least a dozen to 25 senior to me leave each year. The Seniority list just says Resigned. I only know of a few examples where they actually went.
One 767I FO with 15 years seniority went to FedEx. He left a $135,000 yr job to go start over.
Two that I know went to SWA.
One did a stand in stead furlough and is flying for EK, I e-mailed him last month and he likes it.
All were senior to me.

Me, I would never give notice until I had a scheduled class date.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not sure what you mean by Walked out. Do you mean with Security folowing with H.R. in tow?
I also work in the "Real world" now and If you give a notice and offer to stay for an undetermined period to help through the transition, I think most companies, including mine look faviorably on that and we also have a non-compete clauses.
The only people that get "Walked out" are the folks that have been fired or pose a risk and H.R. and security don't want any shenanigans.
I don't know the Airline world, but I would think if you are honest with them they will respond in kind. I know someone in the SWA pool and he informed his regional and they are cool as long as he gives them plenty of notice when he gets a class date.
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Not sure what you mean by Walked out. Do you mean with Security folowing with H.R. in tow?
I also work in the "Real world" now and If you give a notice and offer to stay for an undetermined period to help through the transition, I think most companies, including mine look faviorably on that and we also have a non-compete clauses.
The only people that get "Walked out" are the folks that have been fired or pose a risk and H.R. and security don't want any shenanigans.
I don't know the Airline world, but I would think if you are honest with them they will respond in kind. I know someone in the SWA pool and he informed his regional and they are cool as long as he gives them plenty of notice when he gets a class date.
That's exactly what I mean. You're done and we'll get someone else to fly your trips.

I know most regionals expect their pilots to be trying to leave for the majors and understand that a class date is not always known right away. In regards to leaving a major for another one I can see them being a little annoyed and letting you go on the spot.
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A friend of mine left SWA for FDX. When he emailed in his notice at SWA, his Chief Pilot said, why don't you just consider yourself done today. Send me your stuff.

Personally, while I admire the two-week notice, I wouldn't give one until you are sitting in class.

Case in point - A cargo guy gets a class at DAL. He does the "right thing" and turns in his two-week notice. Shortly after that, 9/11 happens and his class, scheduled for 9/15 is cancelled. He sends a request up the chain to say, "Please rescind (sp) my resignation." His request was denied and he was literally told - "Good luck with your career at Delta."
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A friend of mine left SWA for FDX. When he emailed in his notice at SWA, his Chief Pilot said, why don't you just consider yourself done today. Send me your stuff.

Personally, while I admire the two-week notice, I wouldn't give one until you are sitting in class.

Case in point - A cargo guy gets a class at DAL. He does the "right thing" and turns in his two-week notice. Shortly after that, 9/11 happens and his class, scheduled for 9/15 is cancelled. He sends a request up the chain to say, "Please rescind (sp) my resignation." His request was denied and he was literally told - "Good luck with your career at Delta."
Did your friend at SWA get paid for the time during his notice?

a buddy of mine was hired at a major pre 9-11 and told them he was leaving but never gave a 2 weeks notice because he hadn't gotten a class date yet. he was lucky enough to stay, but that was at a regional.

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Old 08-28-2007, 01:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Who does your "buddy" fly for?
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Most of our Chief Pilots at AA are major major tools and huge cool-aid drinkers. I am just a number and they never let you forget it.

I could see them getting defensive and asking you for your ID while you're giving 2 weeks notice.
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Not uncommon for employees to immediately be escorted off the property depending on their level of employment to prevent sabotage. Same of pilots. It may be on a case by case basis also depending on the relationship between the employee and the supervisor.
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Here is some more advice from an old timer. Never give notice. When you want to quit, call in sick until you run out of sick time. Then let them know. Make sure you are home before they know or you may find yourself having to buy a ticket.
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