⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

I am looking into jumpseating to London (Stansted) on EOS (EWR-STN?) or Maxjet (JFK-STN?). First of all, they are both CASS so I assume I can ride but only in the back since this is an international flight, correct?

What are the procedures and what are the schedules? I'd like to fly out on Jan 7, 8, or 9 and come back on Jan 14, 15, or 16, depending on y'alls schedules. I can fly on my own airline but I’ve heard good things about both Eos and Maxjet and figured it’d be nice to try something new...

Thanks for your help.

JungleBus

Why does everyone assume that CASS determines whether they can ride or not? For international, CASS doesn't matter a fig. What determines whether you can ride - international OR domestic - is whether your airline has a reciprocal jumpseat agreement with the airline you are jumpseating on. There should be a list in your FOM. If not, check with your union's jumpseat committee.

MaxJet has been pretty good about establishing jumpseat agreements but EOS has been very selective. On either one, make sure you dress sharp.

alvrb211

What determines whether you can ride - international OR domestic - is the PIC!




BTW, I just jumpseated to the UK and back earlier this month and the carrier was VERY interested in my CASS status. They checked it here in the US and in England before clearing me.

dontsurf

is it fair to say that all of these things have to align, and in this order:

1. jumpseat agreement
2. CASS
3. captain

if you don't have a reciprocal jumpseat agreement with them, you can't even talk to them.

if you're not in CASS, but have a reciprocal jumpseat agreement, you could still get on though, right?

if you don't have a reciprocal jumpseat agreement, and/or you're not in CASS, you'll never even get a chance to ask the captain, right? unless he's by the gate maybe...and even then, if he says yes, that's still not good enough, right?

i'm asking these things, not stating them. i'm not sure how it all comes together.

myoface

CASS only means you can sit in the actual. Only good for domestic flights. Some gate agent may have checked you in CASS, but being in there or not doesnt mean anything when traveling internationally (this is supposed to change soon). In general you must have an agreement, but in the past the captain has been able to override that (pre 9-11). Nowadays, I would say that no agreement, no jumpseaty. The captain can always turn down a jumpseat request.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Sooo, back to my original question...any EOS or Maxjet guys/gals here?

maxjet

If your airline has a jump agreement with us you are good to go. Cass or no Cass. If you do not have an agreement see if the gate will let you talk with the Captain. Our Chief pilot and DO are VERY pro jump seat. The gate agents either here or in STN will be your biggest hurdle. Remember as a jump seater you have to pay all of the taxes. Last I heard it was $7.00 US to STN and $70.00 return. I could be wrong and I read that the price is going up. Non Revs are not permitted to use the lounges prior to boarding. Once the flight crews get you on the aircraft they will take very good care of you. Most of our flight crews commute (pilots and FA'S) and so we understand how important jump seating is. Remember to dress business casual or better. Good luck and I hope that this helps.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Yes it does help, thanks. Our jumpseat coordinator is looking into an agreement with Maxjet - I believe we already have one with EON. He said that hopefully it'll happen soon. Thanks again.

alvrb211

I paid about 65 pounds earlier this month leaving England. That was about $120 at the time. Gordon Brown recently hiked up the taxes in the UK.

AL

JungleBus

Yeah, UK departure tax nearly doubled earlier this year. At current exchange rates you'll pay $130+ out of Heathrow. I understand Gatwick is somewhat cheaper; don't know about Stansted, though.