Peak Oil--A Myth? - Page 3

JetPiedmont · 05-26-2008, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FliFast

Would a car engine run on Vodka. I know I do pretty good with it....

You drink vodka and then go running?

Must make for some interresting times.

StraightShooter · 05-26-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WhizWheel

Right because chemical weapons (which WERE found) aren't WMD.

What country doesn't have weapons???

Were their chemical weapons able to hurt us???? NOOOO!!!

Do they have nuclear weapons...? No.

They we're already a crippled nation. No legitimate ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

Here's basically what happened. A terror group called Al Qaeda based in Afghanistan attacks us. So, we attach Iraq because we think they have weapons of mass destruction? Even though the weapons inspectors from the UN (Hans Blitz) says "There is no evidence that they have WMD!" We....still attack IRAQ, when a terror group IN AFGHANISTAN attacked the UNITED STATES on 9-11.

That makes no sense....which is why George W. Bush goes down as the worst president in United States History.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE · 05-26-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FliFast

Would a car engine run on Vodka. I know I do pretty good with it.FF

Absolutely! - no pun intended - that's actually what some Soviet era cars were famous (or infamous

) for in Europe and why some people bought them, they were dirt cheap and ran on almost anything; both Lada and Volga come to mind...
I remember for example a neighbor who owned a Volga who always mixed gas with Moskovskaya vodka using a 50-50% ratio, the car ran just fine...
Of course, those were the times when he could make a trip to Leningrad, load up on super cheap vodka and bring it back home, not sure it'd make sense today...

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE · 05-26-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightShooter

What country doesn't have weapons???... ... That makes no sense....which is why George W. Bush goes down as the worst president in United States History.

Very few countries have CHEMICAL weapons - that's what he/she was talking about, not just weapons - big difference as many survivors of Sadam’s chemical wars will tell you - http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/28/africa/ME-GEN-Iran-Chemical-Victims.php
Bush was not a good president (but for different reasons than what you listed) but the worst president EVER will always be Jimmy Carter - no comparison. He even got a Nobel peace prize by my countrymen just to spite Bush and the American public... Carter sucked then and he sucks now...

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE · 05-26-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightShooter

Let's face it, the rest of the world is mad as hell at us. When I make my foreign travels to Europe, a vast majority of people shrug me off as soon as they realize I'm an American. People outside of the USA are ****ed off that we are policing the world and tearing apart IRAQ.

There's alot less pride in trading with our country. Our military is too strong for another country to beat us. But we're too stupid to win at a price war. The Arab's are trying to Bankrupt America with ripping us off when it comes to our addiction to Oil.

It's no secret that the Average American (Homer Simpson) is one paycheck away from taking their savings account to zero. The high prices at the pump wont have a real big effect immediately on our country. Here's what will happen. Big businesses will take a year or so to reorganize to accomadate the supply and demand. The upper-middle class, middle class and poor will all revert to putting gas on their credit card. They will make the minimum payment for a year or so, then when their credit cards get maxed out....well, then the Arab's have then bankrupted our country.

If they can't win in a war, they can win in destroying our wealth.

We are hated worldwide for our pathetic foreign policy.

It's time to get the hell out of Iraq. It's just another Vietnam, we knew it at the beginning. We never found weapons of mass destruction or evidence that they had any. After a year or two of searching for WMD's President Bush changed his reason to say we are there to Free the people of Iraq. Which is stupid.

The Iraq war has cost us 522,000,000,000 dollars. Who has paid for it??? President Bush has just printed off money to pay for this, thus inflating the dollar. Did you know if this had not have happened the value of the dollar would actually have kept the price of gas down?

Ron Paul for President......he's our only hope. www.costofwar.com

Straightshooter - I am a European and your assumptions are so full of baloney I won't even bother rebuking them. You have a defeatist attitude; Europe is not as anti-American as you portray it…

Led Zep · 05-26-2008, 07:48 AM

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Here's basically what happened. A terror group called Al Qaeda based in Afghanistan attacks us. So, we attach Iraq because we think they have weapons of mass destruction? Even though the weapons inspectors from the UN (Hans Blitz) says "There is no evidence that they have WMD!" We....still attack IRAQ, when a terror group IN AFGHANISTAN attacked the UNITED STATES on 9-11.

Technically, Al Qaeda isn't based in Afghanistan. Bin-Laden just happened to move there after being pressured by the Sudanese government to vacate its land. The 9/11 hijackers were from many countries, including Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

The thread that holds the entire organization together is woven in an Islamo-fascist ideology which detests Israel, the West and any government or belief that counters Islam. i.e., their goal is to take their ideology and expand it from the Middle East to the entire world. So it is not just isolated to Afghanistan, but rather it is a regional issue which is situated in the Middle East.

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So, we attach Iraq because we think they have weapons of mass destruction? Even though the weapons inspectors from the UN (Hans Blitz) says "There is no evidence that they have WMD!"

First, I don't put much faith into anything the UN has to say. Second, we did the best we could with the information that we had at the time. Third, not only do I believe that Saddam Hussein possessed WMD's, but he also had more than ample time to move those WMD's. He knew for a very long time that an invasion was imminent. Personally, I believe many of his WMD's were moved to Syria.

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We....still attack IRAQ, when a terror group IN AFGHANISTAN attacked the UNITED STATES on 9-11.

Again, we were not attacked by Afghanistan, but rather by an Islamo-fascist terror group whose leader happened to reside (hiding) in Afghanistan. There are two ways to look at this. One is to take your approach, which I obviously do not agree with. The second is to more or less acknowledge that we took a fight that the enemy started and moved it into their backyard instead of ours.

And I do not believe for one second that Saddam Hussein had no ties to Al Qaeda. This is the same person who sent money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE · 05-26-2008, 07:53 AM

Agree with everything Led Zep said...

Led Zep · 05-26-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Straightshooter - I am a European and your assumptions are so full of baloney I won't even bother rebuking them. You have a defeatist attitude; Europe is not as anti-American as you portray it…

I agree with AV8OR. I have found the people of Europe to be very friendly.

WhizWheel · 05-26-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightShooter

What country doesn't have weapons???

Were their chemical weapons able to hurt us???? NOOOO!!!

Do they have nuclear weapons...? No.

They we're already a crippled nation. No legitimate ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

Here's basically what happened. A terror group called Al Qaeda based in Afghanistan attacks us. So, we attach Iraq because we think they have weapons of mass destruction? Even though the weapons inspectors from the UN (Hans Blitz) says "There is no evidence that they have WMD!" We....still attack IRAQ, when a terror group IN AFGHANISTAN attacked the UNITED STATES on 9-11.

That makes no sense....which is why George W. Bush goes down as the worst president in United States History.

Keep drinkin' the Kool Aid the media feeds you. You sound like all the other folks who get their news from tv spitting out the same ill-informed rhetoric because its popular idealogy.

de727ups · 05-26-2008, 08:36 AM

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