Daytripper

Until a bid is run......we won't know any numbers....and like I said.......there may be early out offers and COLA's. So the actual number of pink slips is unknown. The range posted earlier is worst case scenario.....in my opinion. KEEP IN MIND!!!!! We are in negotiations as well.......and all that it implies.

LifeNtheFstLne

I thought for sure I would get at least one trip to rehab or a divorce under my belt before logging another furlough. I wonder if this means I will then get two trips? Hmmmm.

And yes, this announcement does come at a convenient time - both during negotiations and less than one week before our June 11th rally in Houston. Bring on the furlough. However will I replace my massive 30K income on the 756?

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reCALcitrant

Life seems to understand reality. I can easily replace this job. We are in the drivers seats. We are under a concession contract now. This should NEVER happen again.

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LifeNtheFstLne

I understand so much in my wise old age. And yet, so little. But this was interesting hot off the press news: CAL and XJT reach 7 year CPA this evening (and a lower rate than before). I would imagine big brother had the screws to them, but I'm sure it's better for the XJT guys than being gobbled up by SKW. Time till tell..... I actually think that is better for us regarding scope.

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iahflyr

I think this proves that CAL is not invincible. Everyone has been talking about how despite all the industry turmoil, CAL continues to grow, and should not be "bogged down" by a merger with United. I think the fact that we are seeing 67 aircraft grounded speaks otherwise. No one is safe in this environment (except maybe Southwest because of the price they are paying for fuel).

I continue to believe that ALL 6 legacy airlines will see furloughs come fall, along with several major/national/LCC's out of business. The question is going to be who is going to be on the street's the shortest amount of time. My guess is Delta (that includes the NWA pilots).

Maybe this sudden realization about the financial situation over at CAL will cause the managers to reconsider the merger with UAL. I think that is the best way to manage in this current industry turmoil. Fewer airlines means less competition. Less competition means higher fares. Higher fares means more profits. And more profits are GOOD!!

cessnapilot

yes... he backed the age 65 rule... so ALPA pac backed it. Sorry... I responded before I read the other posts. I couldn't wait after reading such nonsense by OP. It was already stated here.

cessnapilot

only? that is a lot of planes.

scrapdog

I'm almost sure I can say he means in relative terms. When you look at the hehmorraging of money from Q1 and cutting of jobs / planes that UAL, DAL, NWA, and AMR doing - CAL is not looking too shabby. We're taking 30 new aircraft over the next two years as well - the most effecient in today's market (737-800, 900ER's, and 777's). Of all the legacies - CAL was the only one to post a Q1 loss in the double digits (vs. for example DAL's 300 million plus and UAL's 500 million plus losses).

So, i.e. it's all relative. CAL is by far the healthiest legacy right now (although obviously right now no airline is close to triathlete type shape).

HIREME

He's no responsible for those problems, but he is the leader of our organization...which in my opinion has not adapted to changing environments at all. No new ideas, no change, no adaptation.

Ottopilot

The news said CAL is cutting 67 aircraft. With the new deliveries that's only 31 aircraft net loss. 31 is better than 67. Correct?

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