TA with NWA Pilots Reached
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TA with NWA Pilots Reached
The word is a TA has been reached with NWA pilots, it must now go to the MEC for approval, and NWA members for ratifiction.
"The tentative agreement is a painful but necessary part of a successful restructuring of Northwest Airlines,” said Mark McClain, head of the Northwest branch of ALPA. “If all of us can distance ourselves from these recent labor struggles and focus on ensuring the future success of Northwest we can begin looking forward to our emergence from bankruptcy as a proud and profitable airline.”
"The tentative agreement is a painful but necessary part of a successful restructuring of Northwest Airlines,” said Mark McClain, head of the Northwest branch of ALPA. “If all of us can distance ourselves from these recent labor struggles and focus on ensuring the future success of Northwest we can begin looking forward to our emergence from bankruptcy as a proud and profitable airline.”
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Another sad day in the pilot profession
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11658148/
MINNEAPOLIS - Pilots reached a tentative pay-cut deal with Northwest Airlines Corp. on Friday, a major step toward ending a showdown that put the bankrupt airline’s future in doubt.
The Northwest branch of the Air Line Pilots Association announced the agreement but didn’t release details.
The deal would still have to be approved by the union’s leadership and members. The union said its leaders would meet Friday night to consider the agreement.
Pilots were the last Northwest union without a deal.
“The tentative agreement is a painful but necessary part of a successful restructuring of Northwest Airlines,” said Mark McClain, head of the Northwest branch of ALPA. “If all of us can distance ourselves from these recent labor struggles and focus on ensuring the future success of Northwest we can begin looking forward to our emergence from bankruptcy as a proud and profitable airline.”
Northwest had been seeking to reject its contract with pilots if they didn’t agree to pay-cuts and changes in work rules. Intense negotiations took place in New York all week. The stakes rose on Wednesday, when a bankruptcy court judge could have ruled on Northwest’s request but chose to wait to give negotiators more time.
The bankruptcy law would have allowed Northwest to impose its terms even without the judge’s ruling, but pilots threatened to strike if that happened. Northwest has said a strike could have killed it.
Northwest filed for bankruptcy protection on Sept. 14, and continued its pre-bankruptcy push for $1.4 billion in pay cuts from all its workers.
Pilots had already taken a 15 percent pay cut in late 2004 and another, temporary 24 percent pay cut in bankruptcy. A permanent pay cut was part of the latest round of talks, along with Northwest’s push for more flexibility in who flies its smaller jets. Pilots were seeking to own part of Northwest once it emerges from Chapter 11.
On Wednesday, flight attendants reached a tentative agreement with the airline. The airline’s baggage handlers and other groundworkers are also voting on whether to accept their own tentative agreement with Northwest.
MINNEAPOLIS - Pilots reached a tentative pay-cut deal with Northwest Airlines Corp. on Friday, a major step toward ending a showdown that put the bankrupt airline’s future in doubt.
The Northwest branch of the Air Line Pilots Association announced the agreement but didn’t release details.
The deal would still have to be approved by the union’s leadership and members. The union said its leaders would meet Friday night to consider the agreement.
Pilots were the last Northwest union without a deal.
“The tentative agreement is a painful but necessary part of a successful restructuring of Northwest Airlines,” said Mark McClain, head of the Northwest branch of ALPA. “If all of us can distance ourselves from these recent labor struggles and focus on ensuring the future success of Northwest we can begin looking forward to our emergence from bankruptcy as a proud and profitable airline.”
Northwest had been seeking to reject its contract with pilots if they didn’t agree to pay-cuts and changes in work rules. Intense negotiations took place in New York all week. The stakes rose on Wednesday, when a bankruptcy court judge could have ruled on Northwest’s request but chose to wait to give negotiators more time.
The bankruptcy law would have allowed Northwest to impose its terms even without the judge’s ruling, but pilots threatened to strike if that happened. Northwest has said a strike could have killed it.
Northwest filed for bankruptcy protection on Sept. 14, and continued its pre-bankruptcy push for $1.4 billion in pay cuts from all its workers.
Pilots had already taken a 15 percent pay cut in late 2004 and another, temporary 24 percent pay cut in bankruptcy. A permanent pay cut was part of the latest round of talks, along with Northwest’s push for more flexibility in who flies its smaller jets. Pilots were seeking to own part of Northwest once it emerges from Chapter 11.
On Wednesday, flight attendants reached a tentative agreement with the airline. The airline’s baggage handlers and other groundworkers are also voting on whether to accept their own tentative agreement with Northwest.
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
NWA announced that they got the $358 million in concessions that they were demanding. Either they're lying, or the pilots caved.
So I guess you think the pilots negotiated this deal?
Where was ALPA when this all occured?
Oh sorry, perhaps under the table.
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"NWA announced that they got the $358 million in concessions that they were demanding. Either they're lying, or the pilots caved"
NWA management LIE!!!! NEVER!!!
They are the most honest management in the country.
ANYWAY
My understanding is 358 Million was the value always planned. The problem for the pilots was
the various values placed on various contract issues. ALPA I think said NWA was actually asking for 465 million but NWA valued it at 358. ALPA offers 358 Million needed, but company says it only worth 200 Million. the details are not out yet so will see.
NWA management LIE!!!! NEVER!!!
They are the most honest management in the country.
ANYWAY
My understanding is 358 Million was the value always planned. The problem for the pilots was
the various values placed on various contract issues. ALPA I think said NWA was actually asking for 465 million but NWA valued it at 358. ALPA offers 358 Million needed, but company says it only worth 200 Million. the details are not out yet so will see.
Last edited by FlyByWire; 03-03-2006 at 02:19 PM.
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Will the TA be rejected?
Originally Posted by Skywriting
So I guess you think the pilots negotiated this deal?
Where was ALPA when this all occured?
Oh sorry, perhaps under the table.
Where was ALPA when this all occured?
Oh sorry, perhaps under the table.
The NWALPA MEC was the pilots' authorized representative. If they were not expressing the will of their membership, they should have been recalled before they made a deal with management, but they were not. Whose fault is that? It's a little late now.
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Originally Posted by Skywriting
Where was ALPA when this all occured?
Oh sorry, perhaps under the table.
Oh sorry, perhaps under the table.
thanks, duane! another pilot group caves under your brilliant leadership! you should be proud of all that alpa has achieved with you at the helm, you worthless scumbag.
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Originally Posted by Kill Bill
yeah, sucking management's dicks.
thanks, duane! another pilot group caves under your brilliant leadership! you should be proud of all that alpa has achieved with you at the helm, you worthless scumbag.
thanks, duane! another pilot group caves under your brilliant leadership! you should be proud of all that alpa has achieved with you at the helm, you worthless scumbag.
Say Bill, how about giving it a break
If their decision and their the ones who got to live with whatever comes of it. Anyway, no one knows if they "caved" at this point. ALPA leadership also has to listen to its membership. If the NWA guy's think they've been hosed they have the ultimate veto.
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my beef is NOT with NW, it is, and will always be, with alpa-n. had national stepped up and acted like men from the beginning, we may not be here now. instead, they took the coward's path of least resistance and emboldened management to go for our throats.
oh, well; just one more notch lower. i wonder how long it will take cal management to come knocking--again.
oh, well; just one more notch lower. i wonder how long it will take cal management to come knocking--again.
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