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When alpa was still on the property the east mec, refused to say "cactus" and the company went with two different call signs as , according to the company, a new call sign would be more than the east pilots could safely deal with. The new union has a resolution saying that usair is the only acceptable call sign, anything else is a "safety" issue. they also refused to wear the new uniform and that went to arbitration and they lost. And BTW the usair "folks" no longer have an issue with seniority has they have reordered the list so that 85% of west pilots will be junior to the most junior east pilot on date of merger. Yes that means that west captains will hit the street before junior east pilots, as a matter of fact pre merger america west pilots are being furloughed now while new hires (post merger) keep flying back east.
Boss, you sure took the bait and ran with it. We have all heard your raint before. Give it a break.
I thought the call sign was "US Air's".... I always hear it in the plural possesive.... never the singular... Just like "American's", "United's", "Southwests", "Eagle's", etc...
Speaking of callsign's, I wish the ground ATC controllers at LGA and DCA would stop referring to the connection carriers by the parent companies they are working for.
For example, "follow the Delta on your right" when its Comair. Or "follow the US Airways on you're right, you're number 25 for takeoff". Looking out the window, I have two taxiways with 4 US Airways jets (a mixture of mainline and commuters) sitting there waiting to takeoff. Frustrating!
When the Aircraft say UNITED Express or DELTA Connection.... I think what they do is Fine. The Mainline Boss's wanted their name on the planes NOT the actual company doing the flying so you get what YOUR boss's asked for. Quite Frankly if the controller said follow the Comair you might confuse it with an ASA flight.... etc etc....
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Speaking of callsign's, I wish the ground ATC controllers at LGA and DCA would stop referring to the connection carriers by the parent companies they are working for.
For example, "follow the Delta on your right" when its Comair. Or "follow the US Airways on you're right, you're number 25 for takeoff". Looking out the window, I have two taxiways with 4 US Airways jets (a mixture of mainline and commuters) sitting there waiting to takeoff. Frustrating!
No, its not fine and I think maybe you misunderstood becuase I wasn't very clear in the first post.
This is a problem of whats painted on the jet, who is operating it, and how ATC sometimes refers to them.
If the controller wants me to follow, give way, turn in front of a particular jet, be very specific. Don't use the mainline operator name only -- especially when there are other aircraft out there. Someone is going to assume the wrong jet and they're going to ding wingtips.
Instead, tell me the exact aircraft type and operator (as to whats painted on the side of the jet).
If the airplane says "United Express" on the side of it, I'm not going to tell another aircraft to follow Air Shuttle, I'm going to tell them to follow the United Express regional jet. There are a lot of pilots out there who can't tell the difference between Mesaba, Pinnacle, and Compass, for instance, so instead of getting "follow who?", I just tell them to follow Northwest.
Or, if the aircraft just landed, ground control might not know who it is yet, and I can't tell the difference between Skywest and Mesa from a mile away in the tower.
If you aren't sure who ATC is talking about, get clarification "you want me to follow United Express CRJ-900 on Delta?" Or, since you know who it is, verify the actual operator with ATC, if they have a strip or have talked to the plane, then they'll know.
And BTW the usair "folks" no longer have an issue with seniority has they have reordered the list so that 85% of west pilots will be junior to the most junior east pilot on date of merger. Yes that means that west captains will hit the street before junior east pilots, as a matter of fact pre merger america west pilots are being furloughed now while new hires (post merger) keep flying back east.
Exactly how does that work? How does a union undo the judges "binding" arbitartion? I guess they could fight it in court, but can they just undo the judges ruling? If so I better look up "binding" because I don't think it means what I thought it meant.
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