Pilots helping pilots

View over 100 airline profilesAdd to Google



Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major
Register FAQ Advertising Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Major Legacy, National, and LCC

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack (3) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-13-2008, 09:12 PM   #81 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: A319/20/21 Capt
Posts: 424
Default

The very short answer is no, they never came close to a settlement before the arbitration.
cactusmike is offline  
Old 09-13-2008, 09:37 PM   #82 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 223
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
The very short answer is no, they never came close to a settlement before the arbitration.
Key words, before the arbitration. Afterwards I heard from a friend that America West pilots and Usairways pilots met and West refused a possible settlement that would have saved any West pilot from furlough. Is this true?

I provided a link below from a group called U Turn, which happens to be a group of West pilots. West refused to budge, hence 175 are going to be furloughed.

BigJetCity.com - U-Turn Taking Responsibility
all4114all is offline  
Old 09-13-2008, 10:52 PM   #83 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 223
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
The very short answer is no, they never came close to a settlement before the arbitration.
Well pretty close. A group of your America West pilots called U Turn warned you before an ALPA fixed arbitration.

Be ready for this next article to be bashed by West pilots. It was the messenger that carried the bad news, they tried to do away with U Turn opinions and will try again after this post.

BigJetCity.com - The Furloughs and the Warnings
all4114all is offline  
Old 09-14-2008, 07:15 PM   #84 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: A319/20/21 Capt
Posts: 424
Default

U Turn - U Turd, we call it out here, are a couple of ex reps who were tossed out of office for incompetence and a couple of others who have never done one positive thing for the AWA pilots group.

You can always find a couple of idiots to throw handgrenades. The real trick is finding someone that would put things back together.

There was never any movement from the East on DOH. That was during negotiations, that was during the arbitration, that was after Nic was out and Prater was trying everything he could to placate the East. Prater wanted us to cave on the DOH issue and the issue of permanent, one way (i.e. can't bid out of PHX) fences came up. We said NFW, we had an award that followed ALPA merger policy, was based on relative seniority, and was ALPA Policy. Again, the East refused to entertain anything other than DOH.

U Turd would have been the first to fry our negotiators and our MEC if we had agreed to fences without anything to show for the time and expense of working through the Joint Negotiations and the seniority negotiations. We put off section 6 contract negotiations because we thought the East would negotiate in good faith. Big mistake there, expecting the East to do anything in good faith.
cactusmike is offline  
Old 09-14-2008, 08:04 PM   #85 (permalink)
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: unemployed again...
Posts: 25
Default

Man, that was funny, thanks for the comic relief mike...

southflyer is offline  
Old 12-20-2008, 09:29 AM   #86 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 116
Default

Here we go again....another thread about East vs West at US Airways.
After reading this entire thread, I'm starting to understand why lawyers have to decide disputes between pilots.
hangaber is offline  
Old 12-20-2008, 11:56 AM   #87 (permalink)
Gets Weekends Off
 
mccube5's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 697
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hangaber View Post
Here we go again....another thread about East vs West at US Airways.
After reading this entire thread, I'm starting to understand why lawyers have to decide disputes between pilots.
you also realize you are bringing up a thread that hasnt been touched in 3 months. "here we go again" seems to be an odd way to start a post for a thread that has been dead for a while.

why throw gas on the fire?
mccube5 is offline  
Closed Thread

 


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/30749-awa-pilots-sue-usairways-usapa.html
Posted By For Type Date
USAPA - forum talks | BoardReader This thread Refback 10-09-2008 01:36 PM
usapa | BoardReader This thread Refback 09-16-2008 03:01 PM
usapa | BoardReader This thread Refback 09-11-2008 06:48 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:48 AM.


Copyright ©2000 - 2009 Internet Brands, Inc.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7