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Old 01-16-2009, 07:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I actually just had a friend call me up and tell me they met someone who works in "aviation risk management", and told him there is no way that birds brought the plane down...cover up, cover up, cover up.

Some people are really complete idiots
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Heyas,

The wings didn't fail because they were full of chemgoo. You know, the stuff that's used to make chemtrails for weather modification?

They had to keep the photographers back while the NYFD pumped the goo out so that it wouldn't leave a slick.

Sigh....old PT was right...

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Old 01-16-2009, 07:41 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Thank you for that... that's a great picture.

That's why I'm here... to get answers to simple questions.

I just know that every time I've flown commercially and look onto the wing, there are "Do not step" warnings with weight restrictions in the hundreds of pounds...

... So when I see more than 20 people standing on a wing, I ask about it.

I don't really understand the hostility quite frankly.
Let me help you with that Einstein. Others have posted science based facts as to why your concerns are unfounded. You haven't let that get in the way of your "theory." Since most real pilots have an extremely low tolerance level for those who don't listen to facts, that is a recipe for hostility.

One more time:

1. The wings of the A-320 could easily handle the weight of 100 people on each wing even IF that wing wasn't being supported by the surface tension of the Hudson River's water. Not to mention the buoyancy of a wing that is half filled with air.

2. The warnings of "NO STEP" that you see on some wings is only for the actual area of the "NO STEP" placard. Those are generally localized areas of inter-wing subsystems that could be damaged by a person standing directly over them as the upper wing's skin will deflect a little. It is NOT a warning prohibiting you from stepping on the entire wing.

3. Jet engines suck in thousands of cubic feet of air per second - think enormous vacuum cleaners. Even at idle thrust they can suck a rock right off a taxiway. That's why airport surfaces are patrolled and kept as clean as possible. The fact that most of the birds were sucked into the engines is no surprise. It's quite normal. Most birds that do impact the nose or leading edges don't leave dents, but they do leave a lot of blood and guts. I assume that any blood and guts would have been blasted away by the impact and scrubbing forces of the aircraft impacting the river at 130+ miles per hour.

Please return to the Kennedy assassination blogs. Thank you.

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My father sent this short YouTube video to me. It proves that even 60 Minutes totally lied about the Israeli/Palestine conflict:

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Off topic, TOS violation for politics. You might be happier here "TruthSleuth": AboveTopSecret.com: Conspiracy Theories, UFOs, Politics, and Many Other "Alternative Topics"
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I actually just had a friend call me up and tell me they met someone who works in "aviation risk management", and told him there is no way that birds brought the plane down...cover up, cover up, cover up.

Some people are really complete idiots
That's why I'm confused by the hostility here. I thought this was a board for pilots.

I thought fellow pilots would be a bit more into critical thinking instead of showing pictures of conspiracy theorists.

Wouldn't pilots here want to know if it was something else... perhaps sabotage or even terrorism?

I sure wouldn't want to fly knowing that my airline was giving me the "bird" story when it might have been something else.

I've got a family.
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That's why I'm confused by the hostility here. I thought this was a board for pilots.

I thought fellow pilots would be a bit more into critical thinking instead of showing pictures of conspiracy theorists.

Wouldn't pilots here want to know if it was something else... perhaps sabotage or even terrorism?

I sure wouldn't want to fly knowing that my airline was giving me the "bird" story when it might have been something else.

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Politics?

You must be kidding me.

What is going on here?

I haven't voted in over 22 years... I'm anti-political. I HATE politics.

I'm trying to show you that the media MIGHT BE distracting us. I showed absolute proof of it, and you call it POLITICS?

Give me a break.

Let me guess, I'm going to get banned soon, too?
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Let me help you with that Einstein. Others have posted science based facts as to why your concerns are unfounded. You haven't let that get in the way of your "theory." Since most real pilots have an extremely low tolerance level for those who don't listen to facts, that is a recipe for hostility.

One more time:

1. The wings of the A-320 could easily handle the weight of 100 people on each wing even IF that wing wasn't being supported by the surface tension of the Hudson River's water. Not to mention the buoyancy of a wing that is half filled with air.

2. The warnings of "NO STEP" that you see on some wings is only for the actual area of the "NO STEP" placard. Those are generally localized areas of inter-wing subsystems that could be damaged by a person standing directly over them as the upper wing's skin will deflect a little. It is NOT a warning prohibiting you from stepping on the entire wing.

3. Jet engines suck in thousands of cubic feet of air per second - think enormous vacuum cleaners. Even at idle thrust they can suck a rock right off a taxiway. That's why airport surfaces are patrolled and kept as clean as possible. The fact that most of the birds were sucked into the engines is no surprise. It's quite normal. Most birds that do impact the nose or leading edges don't leave dents, but they do leave a lot of blood and guts. I assume that any blood and guts would have been blasted away by the impact and scrubbing forces of the aircraft impacting the river at 130+ miles per hour.

Please return to the Kennedy assassination blogs. Thank you.

Carl
Heyas Carl,

Forget it. I have an ex-girlfriend that was CONVINCED that the Apollo missions were all fake. You know, because she saw it on Fox.

College graduate, too.

One only needs to watch late night infomercials to gauge the savvy of the majority.

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